Booster straps vs Patriot tru straps

Skiblade420

Skiblade420

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Anyone tried both? Do you have a preference?

I like the idea of the two separate straps the patriots have to offer. Would they work with a traditional boot or only on 3 piece designs?
 
I've got a pair of their 2.0 straps

1018043.jpegGreatest addition to skiing since buying Full Tilts. They allow you to really "lock yourself" into your boots while maintaining the flex and comfort.

10/10 wish I knew about them a long time ago. Very noticeable results
 
14346754:Quaggy said:
I've got a pair of their 2.0 straps

View attachment 1018043Greatest addition to skiing since buying Full Tilts. They allow you to really "lock yourself" into your boots while maintaining the flex and comfort.

10/10 wish I knew about them a long time ago. Very noticeable results
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14346754:Quaggy said:
I've got a pair of their 2.0 straps

View attachment 1018043Greatest addition to skiing since buying Full Tilts. They allow you to really "lock yourself" into your boots while maintaining the flex and comfort.

10/10 wish I knew about them a long time ago. Very noticeable results
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Ah ok sweet, Flex stays the same?

that’s the thing I don’t like about my boosters, they kinda stiffen my boot.

would the patriots work with a traditional boot cuff shell?
 
14346776:Skiblade420 said:
Ah ok sweet, Flex stays the same?

that’s the thing I don’t like about my boosters, they kinda stiffen my boot.

would the patriots work with a traditional boot cuff shell?
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Flex stays the same, but moves it closer to your center of gravity if that makes sense... They semingly decreasing the distance needing to lean forward to encounter flex of the boot making the flex feel more natural. Hard to articulate other than makes things less sloppy.

The video linked above shows tightening of the straps on both the wrap and traditional boot liners as well as instillation at ~1:30.
 
14346945:Quaggy said:
Flex stays the same, but moves it closer to your center of gravity if that makes sense... They semingly decreasing the distance needing to lean forward to encounter flex of the boot making the flex feel more natural. Hard to articulate other than makes things less sloppy.

The video linked above shows tightening of the straps on both the wrap and traditional boot liners as well as instillation at ~1:30.
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Cool thanks, and you’ve tried boosters before aswell?
 
14346964:tominiemenmaa said:
There is the Atomic dual strap on the market as wellhttps://shop.atomic.com/en-fi/products/professional-dual-strap-redster-s-m-ae0001711.html

Very interested to try any of the two but Atomic has been out of stock for a while and Patriot charges 30usd of shipping for a 50usd product...

edit: I've had Booster straps on my Dropkicks for years and I love them

**This post was edited on Nov 16th 2021 at 1:44:31am
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1018124.jpeglooks to be free is you're in the States! They've got a "home base" in both Australia and the States.

And OP I have not tried Booster straps, there were too many "levels" of Booster straps for me to make up my mind so I just went with the Patriots. :)
 
I run both at the same time. I take the blue inter strap from the patriots cut them free of the outer straps and run the actual booster strap on top.
 
Yes, but Finland is in neither...

14347095:Quaggy said:
View attachment 1018124looks to be free is you're in the States! They've got a "home base" in both Australia and the States.

And OP I have not tried Booster straps, there were too many "levels" of Booster straps for me to make up my mind so I just went with the Patriots. :)
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ohh boy that sounds a little too pricey. Sorry for the ignorance but customs and vat are charges on top of shipping that are finland specific?

14347181:tominiemenmaa said:
+customs +VAT = bang 2000usd straps
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Yes. Just checked, customs 0%, VAT 24%, customs handling 3eur. One pair would cost me 103.2eur/116.87usd. Two pairs would cost me 128eur/145usd combined or 64eur/72.47usd per pair. That's pretty steep for a pair of straps, but not as steep as I thought ? Same ballpark as the Boosters (~55eur in the EU).

14347190:KCoCM said:
ohh boy that sounds a little too pricey. Sorry for the ignorance but customs and vat are charges on top of shipping that are finland specific?
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[tag=88776]@bigwhite.steeze[/tag] posted on another thread telling he used OEM boot strap on top of the liner and Booster strap on top of the boot. Any thoughts to spare on that? Might give it a try!
 
If you enter your info like you’re going to buy and then close the page, they will send you an email with free shipping

14346964:tominiemenmaa said:
There is the Atomic dual strap on the market as wellhttps://shop.atomic.com/en-fi/products/professional-dual-strap-redster-s-m-ae0001711.html

Very interested to try any of the two but Atomic has been out of stock for a while and Patriot charges 30usd of shipping for a 50usd product...

edit: I've had Booster straps on my Dropkicks for years and I love them

**This post was edited on Nov 16th 2021 at 1:44:31am
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14347225:tominiemenmaa said:
[tag=88776]@bigwhite.steeze[/tag] posted on another thread telling he used OEM boot strap on top of the liner and Booster strap on top of the boot. Any thoughts to spare on that? Might give it a try!
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yeah dude it works really well
 
14347478:Burrito said:
I started using Voile XL straps on my touring boots a couple of years ago. Work just as well as Boosters at about a third of the cost.
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This is just silly and you're fooling yourself into thinking you did yourself a favor. Booster straps are not simply for tightening your boots or making them stiffer. The whole point of a booster strap is to provide certain rebound and elastic properties that allow for a more communicative relationship within the amount of power transfer of the flex of your boots.

The tru straps are also completely different than a booster for the same reason, tru straps are strictly for giving you a tighter feel as they are static.

One thing I also notice quite frequently is skiers buying the world cup booster strap simply because they believe that the stiffest one is going to get them the best performance. Even myself at 175lbs, I would only ever run the expert level booster strap as it has 3 elastic bands (providing those rebound properties as mentioned above) where as the world cup has 2 of the 3 bands sewn together, ultimately providing a more static feel unless you're 200+ lbs.
 
14351645:.nasty said:
This is just silly and you're fooling yourself into thinking you did yourself a favor. Booster straps are not simply for tightening your boots or making them stiffer. The whole point of a booster strap is to provide certain rebound and elastic properties that allow for a more communicative relationship within the amount of power transfer of the flex of your boots.

The tru straps are also completely different than a booster for the same reason, tru straps are strictly for giving you a tighter feel as they are static.

One thing I also notice quite frequently is skiers buying the world cup booster strap simply because they believe that the stiffest one is going to get them the best performance. Even myself at 175lbs, I would only ever run the expert level booster strap as it has 3 elastic bands (providing those rebound properties as mentioned above) where as the world cup has 2 of the 3 bands sewn together, ultimately providing a more static feel unless you're 200+ lbs.
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Like you I am definitely in the camp of appreciating the elastic feel of Boosters. Having run Boosters for 15+ years, and doing back to back resort laps with the two different straps while testing the idea, I can absolutely say that the elasticity and “communicative relationship” of the Voile XLs is 95% of the way there compared with Boosters. You lose some adjustability since it’s a notched buckle rather than cam strap, and getting the tension right is a little trickier the first time out, but otherwise the feeling while riding is shockingly similar. I think you’d be surprised by how well they work and how good they feel.
 
Ive had to patriots and the boosters with just the one strap and ill never go back to the ones with one strap. The patriot dualstrap just makes me feel soooo locked in to my boots there is a noticeable difference imo.
 
I have been a Booster fan for years, I just put the Atomic Dual strap on my boots and they feel great. I will have them on snow this weekend but so far so good.
 
On another note, you guys do booster above or beneath the shell?

**This post was edited on Dec 22nd 2021 at 7:08:06pm
 
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