Black ops 118 vs Super 7

kaih690

kaih690

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Hello skiers I'm from AK and skiing for rossi next year. I'm on the Freeride team in AK I don't ski directional but not sure if I should ride the BO due to the weight currently I ski the Kartel 116 186. What are pros and cons of the BO 118 and Super 7. Thank you.

I'm 15, 5'11 and prefer to ski big stiff skis.
 
topic:kaih690 said:
Hello skiers I'm from AK and skiing for rossi next year. I'm on the Freeride team in AK I don't ski directional but not sure if I should ride the BO due to the weight currently I ski the Kartel 116 186. What are pros and cons of the BO 118 and Super 7. Thank you.

I'm 15, 5'11 and prefer to ski big stiff skis.
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Talk to the dude giving you the skis he should be able to help you pick out a filthy quiver.

Unless Rossignol plays the corporate game and shafts you but nonetheless.
 
14031247:bait said:
Talk to the dude giving you the skis he should be able to help you pick out a filthy quiver.

Unless Rossignol plays the corporate game and shafts you but nonetheless.
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Thanks but most people I talk to dont ski like me and say your dont need a 116 or 118 it’s personal preference. Ive been recomened the soul 7 more times than i can count
 
Black ops sounds like the closest ski out right now to the K116. The super 7 is a pretty heavily tapered directional ski vs the black ops and kartel which are way more progressive in terms of mount.
 
14031269:Rum_Ham said:
Black ops sounds like the closest ski out right now to the K116. The super 7 is a pretty heavily tapered directional ski vs the black ops and kartel which are way more progressive in terms of mount.
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Yeah the Black Ops has a recommend mount of like -2.9
 
If you like the Kartel 116, the Black Ops 118 should feel super familiar. It's not that much heavier, and I'd argue it's a bit more versatile (better on firm snow). If you like to throw tricks and/or ski hard and fast in rough snow, I'd definitely recommend the Black Ops over the Super 7. The Black Ops is one of the most stable ~115mm+ skis I've ever been on. Definitely not the lowest swing weight, but there are few skis I'd rather be on for skiing variable snow. The Super 7 HD and RD are a bit easier to flick around in tight terrain, but at high speeds I'd take the Black Ops any day.
 
14031409:kaih690 said:
Bump still need more advice before i pull the trigger
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It might help people offering advice if you could talk about your experience with the Kartel 116 — what do you like about it and what don't you like about it? Because unless you specifically hate the swing weight of the Kartel, I don't think there's any reason to go with the Super 7 as it's a very, very different ski (both the HD and RD) compared to the Kartel 116 and BO 118, whereas the Black Ops is quite similar to the Kartel.
 
14031427:patagonialuke said:
It might help people offering advice if you could talk about your experience with the Kartel 116 — what do you like about it and what don't you like about it? Because unless you specifically hate the swing weight of the Kartel, I don't think there's any reason to go with the Super 7 as it's a very, very different ski (both the HD and RD) compared to the Kartel 116 and BO 118, whereas the Black Ops is quite similar to the Kartel.
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The kartel 116 was a great ski I liked it more than the k108, due to the waist width. It was very playful and poppy. It performed super well and scored me a 2 and 3 place in the comps i did this year.
 
You are debating black ops or super 7s and you center mount everything? Ok dude.

Super 7s are like -8cm rec lol

**This post was edited on May 8th 2019 at 9:08:39pm
 
I’ve skied on both for a few years now, DM me if ya have specific questions

**This post was edited on May 9th 2019 at 2:37:19am
 
topic:kaih690 said:
Hello skiers I'm from AK and skiing for rossi next year. I'm on the Freeride team in AK I don't ski directional but not sure if I should ride the BO due to the weight currently I ski the Kartel 116 186. What are pros and cons of the BO 118 and Super 7. Thank you.

I'm 15, 5'11 and prefer to ski big stiff skis.
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The 7 series are garbage in my opinion. The black ops are a great ski and if you currently ride a Kartel 116 in a 186 you don’t need to worry about the weight. They’re gonna feel very similar in terms of swing weight.
 
Black ops are a tad bit stiffer, heavier and have a less playfull shape than k116s. I used them for free ride comps and they are super versatile and chargy at everything, love the bop 118, hate the whole super 7 dad ski line
 
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