both of those are virtually undoable (we got kicked out during setup both times) because theyre right in front of campus police, as i remember correctly. Theres really only the quad and a couple ledges that are legitimately time efficient to get shots on. but you guys have tons of other rails up there that are sick, like your 30 stair dub kink, and a variety of wooden kinks. were makin a trip as soon as the snow flies, before it gets colder than an eskimos ass crack.