Bio vs Flatspin

Malcolmstoddart

Malcolmstoddart

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Okay, I know there's some debate between a Flatspin and a rodeo, but what is the difference between a bio and a Flatspin? Neither are inverted, and both are set forward (or at least I thought flatspins were set slightly forward).
 
14246440:Malcolmstoddart said:
So how does setting a Flatspin differ from how you set a bio?
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I think you’d set a bio like more forward like a wobble where as a flat spin is like your trying to get your body perpendicular to the ground d
 
Seems to me that you can't really do a bio under 7, I usually see like bio 9s and 10s. Flatspins, well flat 3s and 5s are some of the most common tricks. There are some people who do flat 7s and 9s, but its more common to see a dub 9 or something. That's because it's way more flippy and poppy vs a bio, like a cork, is more spinny.
 
As someone that has done both Flatspins and bio's I can tell you they are totally different tricks. Sometimes they may look similar in video or get mislabelled cause people can throw them with slite variations, but they feel and are throwen very different off the lip, here are the basics

Bio - Bio in simple terms is a forward cork. Instead of going of axis with your feet in front towards the landing your feet go behind towards the lip. The throw is forward off the lip very similar to a misty but not nearly as inverted.

Flatspin/Rodeo - so much debate on this but I am pretty firm on the stance these are pretty much the same trick that can be throwin with some varience. For this I throw my weight backwards off the lip unlike the bio. I spin left so I drop my right shoulder and open up my chest towards the sky, while in a cork I would drop my left shoulder and bring my chest down.

See examples below

Bio 7 - 2:11

Bio 9 - 3:04

Flat/Rode 3 - 2:25

Flat/Rode 5 - 2:57

Cork 3 - 0:52

Cork 5 - 1:28

[video]990359[/video]
 
That is super helpful, thanks. I think my confusion comes with what people call a "flat spin". If that trick is essentially the same as a rodeo, than the difference between that and a bio makes total sense.

14246828:poofartpee said:
As someone that has done both Flatspins and bio's I can tell you they are totally different tricks. Sometimes they may look similar in video or get mislabelled cause people can throw them with slite variations, but they feel and are throwen very different off the lip, here are the basics

Bio - Bio in simple terms is a forward cork. Instead of going of axis with your feet in front towards the landing your feet go behind towards the lip. The throw is forward off the lip very similar to a misty but not nearly as inverted.

Flatspin/Rodeo - so much debate on this but I am pretty firm on the stance these are pretty much the same trick that can be throwin with some varience. For this I throw my weight backwards off the lip unlike the bio. I spin left so I drop my right shoulder and open up my chest towards the sky, while in a cork I would drop my left shoulder and bring my chest down.

See examples below

Bio 7 - 2:11

Bio 9 - 3:04

Flat/Rode 3 - 2:25

Flat/Rode 5 - 2:57

Cork 3 - 0:52

Cork 5 - 1:28

[video]990359[/video]
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TL:DR

bio: off axis set forward

flat: off axis set backward

cork: off axis set to the side

misty: bio that inverts

rodeo: flat that inverts

theres also whack flips and Lincoln loops and all sorts of otha shid but those are the basic/common ones
 
14247217:skierman_jack said:
TL:DR

bio: off axis set forward

flat: off axis set backward

cork: off axis set to the side

misty: bio that inverts

rodeo: flat that inverts

theres also whack flips and Lincoln loops and all sorts of otha shid but those are the basic/common ones
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This ain’t it. Corks should be set backwards or else your gonna end with a poor set which hinders future progression. Also a flat spin isn’t exactly set back. You kinda set it more sideways/forwards. I tend to think of it as an orbital rotation more than a spin.
 
Noted. Just tryina dumb it down as much as possible

14247229:MoneyMakerMike said:
This ain’t it. Corks should be set backwards or else your gonna end with a poor set which hinders future progression. Also a flat spin isn’t exactly set back. You kinda set it more sideways/forwards. I tend to think of it as an orbital rotation more than a spin.
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Wait, that Flatspin was inverted (which I thought was rode), and that rodeo was not inverted (which I thought was more "flat").

I am thoroughly confused on what a "Flatspin" is. Looking at the comments it seems like many people have different ideas of what it is haha. Is it just a rodeo?!

14247401:galardogod said:
flatspin


rodeo


bio
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14247480:Malcolmstoddart said:
Wait, that Flatspin was inverted (which I thought was rode), and that rodeo was not inverted (which I thought was more "flat").

I am thoroughly confused on what a "Flatspin" is. Looking at the comments it seems like many people have different ideas of what it is haha. Is it just a rodeo?!
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This is where it can become subjective. A flat 3 usually ends up inverted, it is really hard to actually keep it flat at that small of a rotation.

The Rodeo 5 TJ throws is a Bio 5 in my opinion since he says he throws it forward and keeps it flat.

and the debate continues
 
IMO***** in order from forward to backwards, it goes. frontflip, misty, bio, upright, cork, rodeo, backflip.

Flatspin is a term used to describe a rodeo that is more “flat”. Just like D spin describes a cork that is more flippy. Ive been saying for a while now but flatspins arent real and everybody rips me for it but ONE DAY im going to convince ppl. Watch.

The thing is if you truly wants the rodeo to be more “flat” you basically have to kinda almost set it like a bio in order to achieve that axis so it is definitely confusing. If youve ever actually tried to do a real flatspin then u know what im talking about. As far as saying a a crooked backie is a flat 3 idk where tf that started from but you can’t have both hahaha. The thing is, its just been used in that way for so long that ppl have accepted it. Tbh, I used to be the guy that cared about trick names but I realized as long as ppl know what you’re trying to do it doesnt really matter at all
 
Couldn't agree more! And like ya said, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter what is called what. But yeah, I don't really think a flatspin is a defined rotation, more of a way to explain a more "flat" rode.

14247529:BLandz_ said:
IMO***** in order from forward to backwards, it goes. frontflip, misty, bio, upright, cork, rodeo, backflip.

Flatspin is a term used to describe a rodeo that is more “flat”. Just like D spin describes a cork that is more flippy. Ive been saying for a while now but flatspins arent real and everybody rips me for it but ONE DAY im going to convince ppl. Watch.

The thing is if you truly wants the rodeo to be more “flat” you basically have to kinda almost set it like a bio in order to achieve that axis so it is definitely confusing. If youve ever actually tried to do a real flatspin then u know what im talking about. As far as saying a a crooked backie is a flat 3 idk where tf that started from but you can’t have both hahaha. The thing is, its just been used in that way for so long that ppl have accepted it. Tbh, I used to be the guy that cared about trick names but I realized as long as ppl know what you’re trying to do it doesnt really matter at all
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14247529:BLandz_ said:
IMO***** in order from forward to backwards, it goes. frontflip, misty, bio, upright, cork, rodeo, backflip.

Flatspin is a term used to describe a rodeo that is more “flat”. Just like D spin describes a cork that is more flippy. Ive been saying for a while now but flatspins arent real and everybody rips me for it but ONE DAY im going to convince ppl. Watch.

The thing is if you truly wants the rodeo to be more “flat” you basically have to kinda almost set it like a bio in order to achieve that axis so it is definitely confusing. If youve ever actually tried to do a real flatspin then u know what im talking about. As far as saying a a crooked backie is a flat 3 idk where tf that started from but you can’t have both hahaha. The thing is, its just been used in that way for so long that ppl have accepted it. Tbh, I used to be the guy that cared about trick names but I realized as long as ppl know what you’re trying to do it doesnt really matter at all
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That’s how I think because flat spins where the body’s perpendicular to the ground you end up setting forward a bit
 
@mods plz make this part of the site rules

14247529:BLandz_ said:
IMO***** in order from forward to backwards, it goes. frontflip, misty, bio, upright, cork, rodeo, backflip.

Flatspin is a term used to describe a rodeo that is more “flat”. Just like D spin describes a cork that is more flippy. Ive been saying for a while now but flatspins arent real and everybody rips me for it but ONE DAY im going to convince ppl. Watch.

The thing is if you truly wants the rodeo to be more “flat” you basically have to kinda almost set it like a bio in order to achieve that axis so it is definitely confusing. If youve ever actually tried to do a real flatspin then u know what im talking about. As far as saying a a crooked backie is a flat 3 idk where tf that started from but you can’t have both hahaha. The thing is, its just been used in that way for so long that ppl have accepted it. Tbh, I used to be the guy that cared about trick names but I realized as long as ppl know what you’re trying to do it doesnt really matter at all
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