hahaha yeah yeah i totally know what you mean, i think its more of a personal experience for me, the kind of people that say it around me, theyre more wanna-be surfer bro bras that live here in the middle of colorado and have no association to surfing, its the cali image they want. hahaha whatevs if ya no what i mean that right on, if ya don't i ain't gunna lose shleep over it.