Baggy, handmade pants hot take

asparagus

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I’ve started to see some hate on the baggy pants trend, especially the $250 custom ones sewed by unknown skier kids. Stuff like Lids4domes, Lizard stuff, Harlaut Apparel and capeesh (last 2 are a little different).

While trends DO get played out, I think this is one of the best trends to hit skiing in years. Small, skier owned brands are exactly what we need, especially after skiing “failed” to sell out to bigger brands like nike and under armor.

It’s becoming more apparent that freeskiing will never invade the mainstream like skateboarding did, and knowing that these larger companies won’t give skiers the money they really need I think it’s a good idea for skiing to invest in itself.

Obviously stuff like helmets, boots and goggles can’t really be made by small scale operations but we have no excuse not supporting skier-owned business when it comes to certain outerwear items.
 
big ups to the little guys, fuck off to the big guys, we bringing back local economy 2022

I rly want some Lizard pants but they are expensive for me atm so $20 XXL track pants on Poshmark gotta do the trick for a while. maybe next szn
 
14423731:CrunnchyPissFart said:
big ups to the little guys, fuck off to the big guys, we bringing back local economy 2022

I rly want some Lizard pants but they are expensive for me atm so $20 XXL track pants on Poshmark gotta do the trick for a while. maybe next szn

I definitely think lizard stuff pants are worth it after this season. They are made out of a stiff, durable material, and are baggy but not parachute pants
 
14423733:hi_vis360 said:
I definitely think lizard stuff pants are worth it after this season. They are made out of a stiff, durable material, and are baggy but not parachute pants

that sounds Ideal tbh, thats the problem with $20 postmark XXL track pants lmao, any amount of speed and u lookin like a flagpole

. Dude who runs it is a homie, I bought a sweater a few months back and its so nice, immaculate customer service too

I wonder if they do customs?

**This post was edited on Apr 7th 2022 at 10:23:01am
 
I agree. It's nice to give money to skiers and boarders. I mean sure the guys who run the bigger companies ski too, but it's different when these small brands are run by people who you could meet in the park or the streets somewhere and have a conversation with.

Also brands like arsenic or smooth18 have been hosting community events which is something I absolutely want to see more of.

I think it's also worth noting that these brands don't just make super baggy pants. I have a pair of lids4domes pants that have a more classic fit.
 
I think it's ironic people on this site clown on people who buy montec, but then go spend twice as much on a kit that makes them literally look like a clown.
 
My hot take is that harlaut pants are the only pants that actually look good really big. sure you can buy generic pants and get 6xl but they just aren’t the same. They are (harlaut) good in the sense of the thugged out baggy. You can get 3xl thrift pants or the ripstop parachute pants and they just aren’t the same. I believe there is different types of baggy. All depends on how you pair them together. 3X pants with a tall t is thug but 3x track pants and a budlight jacket is different
 
Idk why you guys care so much about how other people look, omg his skis are the wrong size, omg his pants are wrong, who cares?
 
u clown ass teens think u look good wearing this baggy trash and durags ? and think ur better than average humans that pay less for normal looking ski gear ? talk about privilege and ableism hahahaha
 
Things start out fresh, .....fire, ....then comes the*one-upmanship* and what was new becomes this

14424003:Denseclouds said:
I see some straight up circus shit up at brighton bro im talkin clown pants
 
topic:asparagus said:
I’ve started to see some hate on the baggy pants trend, especially the $250 custom ones sewed by unknown skier kids. Stuff like Lids4domes, Lizard stuff, Harlaut Apparel and capeesh (last 2 are a little different).

While trends DO get played out, I think this is one of the best trends to hit skiing in years. Small, skier owned brands are exactly what we need, especially after skiing “failed” to sell out to bigger brands like nike and under armor.

It’s becoming more apparent that freeskiing will never invade the mainstream like skateboarding did, and knowing that these larger companies won’t give skiers the money they really need I think it’s a good idea for skiing to invest in itself.

Obviously stuff like helmets, boots and goggles can’t really be made by small scale operations but we have no excuse not supporting skier-owned business when it comes to certain outerwear items.

Love supporting small companies, butttt sorry to break it to you, skiing is already mainstream. Growing up, (granted I’m from Seattle) there we’re only a few, maybe 4, kids I knew that “skied” meaning at least weekend warriors. Now you can’t throw a rock without hitting someone that has an ikon or epic pass. The ads are everywhere.

Eileen Gu made …31 MILLION… in 2021 from endorsements and brands.

No hate, and again SUPPORT LOCAL, but we’re not going back to “underground”.

Also, there is such a thing as too baggy my guys. I wear a bit oversized, its what I like. HH is a bit too much for me but I get the vibe.
 
14424059:Graham0596 said:
Love supporting small companies, butttt sorry to break it to you, skiing is already mainstream. Growing up, (granted I’m from Seattle) there we’re only a few, maybe 4, kids I knew that “skied” meaning at least weekend warriors. Now you can’t throw a rock without hitting someone that has an ikon or epic pass. The ads are everywhere.

Eileen Gu made …31 MILLION… in 2021 from endorsements and brands.

No hate, and again SUPPORT LOCAL, but we’re not going back to “underground”.

Also, there is such a thing as too baggy my guys. I wear a bit oversized, its what I like. HH is a bit too much for me but I get the vibe.

Damn 31 million is insane but Gu is the exception not the rule. From what u can tell, most pros don't make that much money. A lot of pros are essential influences who get free stuff but don't get paid much unfortunately.
 
14424059:Graham0596 said:
Love supporting small companies, butttt sorry to break it to you, skiing is already mainstream. Growing up, (granted I’m from Seattle) there we’re only a few, maybe 4, kids I knew that “skied” meaning at least weekend warriors. Now you can’t throw a rock without hitting someone that has an ikon or epic pass. The ads are everywhere.

Eileen Gu made …31 MILLION… in 2021 from endorsements and brands.

No hate, and again SUPPORT LOCAL, but we’re not going back to “underground”.

Also, there is such a thing as too baggy my guys. I wear a bit oversized, its what I like. HH is a bit too much for me but I get the vibe.

Eileen Gu has absolutely nothing to do with the type of skiing I care about, I don't watch comps and don't follow her so I've literally never even seen footage of her skiing.

living in Seattle might be skewing your perspective a little, that city has always been a magnet for wealthy outdoorsy types. The reality in a lot of rural America is that people are getting priced out of skiing, I've met lots of people who grew up skiing and enjoyed it who would like to teach their kids but can't because it's gotten too expensive.
 
14424059:Graham0596 said:
Love supporting small companies, butttt sorry to break it to you, skiing is already mainstream. Growing up, (granted I’m from Seattle) there we’re only a few, maybe 4, kids I knew that “skied” meaning at least weekend warriors. Now you can’t throw a rock without hitting someone that has an ikon or epic pass. The ads are everywhere.

Eileen Gu made …31 MILLION… in 2021 from endorsements and brands.

No hate, and again SUPPORT LOCAL, but we’re not going back to “underground”.

Also, there is such a thing as too baggy my guys. I wear a bit oversized, its what I like. HH is a bit too much for me but I get the vibe.

Gu is a model and influencer that happens to ski
 
I fuck with supporting the homies and their creative endeavors, my one concern is a lack of creativity that makes all the pants look the same, or making shitty pants just for the bag
 
14424185:asparagus said:
Gu is a model and influencer that happens to ski

Sorry, but tell that to her Olympic gold medals. She’s more of a skier than you and I ever will be. Just cause you don’t like her don’t mean she ain’t a skier. I’m a shlub that happens to ski, she’s a damn Olympian…
 
14424185:asparagus said:
Gu is a model and influencer that happens to ski

"happens to ski"

she's already better than 90% of the field in all disciplines, don't let your hate blind you.
 
14424137:Christian_Bale said:
Damn 31 million is insane but Gu is the exception not the rule. From what u can tell, most pros don't make that much money. A lot of pros are essential influences who get free stuff but don't get paid much unfortunately.

Definitely the exception, just find it funny when people still see skiing as “not mainstream”

i never used to see “ski pages” on insta, or “season pass ads” or the insane crowds that I’ve noticed the last 5 years.

and don’t wanna paint pro skiers as rolling in cash. For almost all I know it’s the love for the thing and the ability to get to do it all the time, not mons.
 
14424151:hi_vis360 said:
Eileen Gu has absolutely nothing to do with the type of skiing I care about

living in Seattle might be skewing your perspective a little, that city has always been a magnet for wealthy outdoorsy types.

I've met lots of people who grew up skiing and enjoyed it who would like to teach their kids but can't because it's gotten too expensive.

only mention Gu as an example of how much skiing has changed, it’s mainstream now.

for sure Seattle is now more than ever filled with folks with money that wanna spend that money doing expensive sports.

as far as people not being able to afford it, I agree. My sister, who I have skied with my whole life, cannot afford to ski. She also lives in Seattle. But, I think it has a lot more to do with wage stagnation and the costs of living. Obviously there is a huge cost of entry to becoming a skier. You need the clothes, the skis, the googles and helms, you need a pass, and the transportation (a car that can handle snow and the gas to get there are not cheap). But I made it a focus, I wanted to incorporate into my life. I don’t make a crazy amount of money, my dad hasn’t bought me a pass since I was 16 (just saying I pay my way). I prioritized skiing and she had different priorities. Also an added point, she’s has a college degree, I do not.

it’s more expensive now yes, but only relatively. The first pass I bought on my own to Crystal Mt was $800 smackers (2014) $900 with gondola. Last year I paid $950 for an Ikon Unlimited…
 
14424232:Graham0596 said:
Definitely the exception, just find it funny when people still see skiing as “not mainstream”

i never used to see “ski pages” on insta, or “season pass ads” or the insane crowds that I’ve noticed the last 5 years.

and don’t wanna paint pro skiers as rolling in cash. For almost all I know it’s the love for the thing and the ability to get to do it all the time, not mons.

In regard to the type of skiing that we do, I don't consider it mainstream cuz most people don't really understand park skiing or street skiing. For instance I tried to explain to my grandfather, who used to ski a bunch when he was younger, what park skiing was and he didn't get it at all until I showed him footage, and then he was pretty blown away. So I'm not saying skiing is "underground" or anything, it just seems weird to call it mainstream
 
14424230:eheath said:
"happens to ski"

she's already better than 90% of the field in all disciplines, don't let your hate blind you.

eileen is easily one of the lamest skiers in the industry right now ????? idc about her skills all i see is a skier who turned into a lame basic influencer ????
 
14424151:hi_vis360 said:
Eileen Gu has absolutely nothing to do with the type of skiing I care about, I don't watch comps and don't follow her so I've literally never even seen footage of her skiing.

living in Seattle might be skewing your perspective a little, that city has always been a magnet for wealthy outdoorsy types. The reality in a lot of rural America is that people are getting priced out of skiing, I've met lots of people who grew up skiing and enjoyed it who would like to teach their kids but can't because it's gotten too expensive.

I have met several people who have lived less than half an hour from world class skiing their whole lives and have never been on skis due to the cost. Now, the industry is making it so not only can't these people afford to try skiing, they can't afford to live in their hometown and have to move. It's sad
 
14424227:Graham0596 said:
Sorry, but tell that to her Olympic gold medals. She’s more of a skier than you and I ever will be. Just cause you don’t like her don’t mean she ain’t a skier. I’m a shlub that happens to ski, she’s a damn Olympian…

14424230:eheath said:
"happens to ski"

she's already better than 90% of the field in all disciplines, don't let your hate blind you.

Firstly, my point was that her money came from a mix of modelling and being an olympic/high caliber athlete, not because she’s a park skier.

The fact that she’s a freeskier is irrelevant to her career, in fact, she’d probably be more successful if she were such a high caliber athlete in a different sport.

The most valuable people to our sport are the ones who are deeply engrained into it. Henrik, Casabon, Wallisch, Tanner, all of those guys wouldn’t have the same levels of influence in other sports, even if they were still the best. We care about them because of things deeper than “they win all the medals”.

What I’m trying to say is that Eileen Gu won’t be the one hosting rail jams, invitationals, shooting movies, all the stuff I actually care about. Hell, I have my doubts on talented kids like Matej who I’m sure you guys would hate on if he wasn’t stylish.

What I’m trying to say is that it pisses me off when all the money in skiing goes to athletes that won’t re-invest it back into the sport just because they’re the most “talented”.

Tom is using his influence to run a rail jam that is LOSING money. Phil is spending his life savings on an animated project that probably won’t make him money either. Henrik and Tanner have both run invitationals on top of dropping several FREE movie projects that took time out of their contest careers.

TL/DR; Eileen makes bank because she an athlete not because she’s a skier. Don’t care how much better at skiing she is than me because she won’t invest that money back into the sport.
 
14424321:Jems said:
eileen is easily one of the lamest skiers in the industry right now ????? idc about her skills all i see is a skier who turned into a lame basic influencer ????

You don't have to like her to respect her skiing, she is the best women's skier right now regardless of your opinion.
 
14424335:eheath said:
You don't have to like her to respect her skiing, she is the best women's skier right now regardless of your opinion.

the way she presents herself is ultra lame so she's just lame

she could not be a boring influencer and be a sick skier at the same time but she isn't ????? ?????
 
14424333:asparagus said:
Firstly, my point was that her money came from a mix of modelling and being an olympic/high caliber athlete, not because she’s a park skier.

The fact that she’s a freeskier is irrelevant to her career, in fact, she’d probably be more successful if she were such a high caliber athlete in a different sport.

The most valuable people to our sport are the ones who are deeply engrained into it. Henrik, Casabon, Wallisch, Tanner, all of those guys wouldn’t have the same levels of influence in other sports, even if they were still the best. We care about them because of things deeper than “they win all the medals”.

What I’m trying to say is that Eileen Gu won’t be the one hosting rail jams, invitationals, shooting movies, all the stuff I actually care about. Hell, I have my doubts on talented kids like Matej who I’m sure you guys would hate on if he wasn’t stylish.

What I’m trying to say is that it pisses me off when all the money in skiing goes to athletes that won’t re-invest it back into the sport just because they’re the most “talented”.

Tom is using his influence to run a rail jam that is LOSING money. Phil is spending his life savings on an animated project that probably won’t make him money either. Henrik and Tanner have both run invitationals on top of dropping several FREE movie projects that took time out of their contest careers.

TL/DR; Eileen makes bank because she an athlete not because she’s a skier. Don’t care how much better at skiing she is than me because she won’t invest that money back into the sport.

this is exactly what I think about Eileen but I won't put any effort into formulating something like this so ill just call her lame
 
14424333:asparagus said:
Firstly, my point was that her money came from a mix of modelling and being an olympic/high caliber athlete, not because she’s a park skier.

TL/DR; Eileen makes bank because she an athlete not because she’s a skier. Don’t care how much better at skiing she is than me because she won’t invest that money back into the sport.

for sure, it’s all about the guys that give back. I don’t respect Gu at all, when she’s brought up it actually sort of upsets me.

But I do feel like she is making this kind of money because she’s a skier. She’s now the face of skiing in China and many other countries (& brands) and women look up to her. But agreed, on the other points.

and didn’t mean to insult about how good of a skier you are, I’m sure you have a far deeper trick bag than I. But there’s no question she’s a skier.
 
14424326:ReturnToMonkey said:
I have met several people who have lived less than half an hour from world class skiing their whole lives and have never been on skis due to the cost. Now, the industry is making it so not only can't these people afford to try skiing, they can't afford to live in their hometown and have to move. It's sad

Costs are ridiculous, no question, especially rent. Was just bringing up that in 2014 it was 900 bucks for a seasons pass to 1 mountain. Vs now about 1k for a network (granted you can only take advantage of those benefits if you have CASH)

and fuck corps
 
????

14424321:Jems said:
?just watch skiing for the outfits???? idc about skills all i see is a skier who turned into a lame basic influencer ????give me some one that wears outfits I like better who cares if they can ski
 
14424287:Christian_Bale said:
In regard to the type of skiing that we do, I don't consider it mainstream cuz most people don't really understand park skiing or street skiing.

For sure, maybe to clarify “skiing” in my opinion is pretty mainstream “freeskiing” is still pretty isolated
 
topic:asparagus said:
I’ve started to see some hate on the baggy pants trend, especially the $250 custom ones sewed by unknown skier kids. Stuff like Lids4domes, Lizard stuff, Harlaut Apparel and capeesh (last 2 are a little different).

While trends DO get played out, I think this is one of the best trends to hit skiing in years. Small, skier owned brands are exactly what we need, especially after skiing “failed” to sell out to bigger brands like nike and under armor.

It’s becoming more apparent that freeskiing will never invade the mainstream like skateboarding did, and knowing that these larger companies won’t give skiers the money they really need I think it’s a good idea for skiing to invest in itself.

Obviously stuff like helmets, boots and goggles can’t really be made by small scale operations but we have no excuse not supporting skier-owned business when it comes to certain outerwear items.

My bad, guy.

Didn’t mean to deteriorate this thread into a skiing culture/ Gu debate lol.
 
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