Alright, so I've bucketlisted doing a backflip on skis and I'm not one to back out of a bucklist item. I was just curious to see what you wonderful (and attractive) NS people have to say about a progression to a backflip. I can do it on a tramp and off of diving boards, but that's not the same I'm sure. What are the differences? What did you find helpful in learning to throw backflips? Is it more of a "suck it up and grow some lady balls" kinda thing?
Backflip Progression Tips
- Thread starter Skierra69
- Start date
first_rodeo
Active member
You flip in the air, dont do it on the takeoff.
backflip>loop>rodeo that is path of progression
backflip>loop>rodeo that is path of progression
first_rodeo
Active member
you dont flip or even start the flip on the takeoff
for example this is how you start an lincoln loop
View attachment 629362
if you start the flip on the takeoff you will probs land on your back
think about when you started spinning off jumps. you didnt spin until airborne
for example this is how you start an lincoln loop
View attachment 629362
if you start the flip on the takeoff you will probs land on your back
think about when you started spinning off jumps. you didnt spin until airborne
Don't just panic about going upside down and impatiently huck off the lip. If you do that you'll either not get enough air and risk clocking your head on the lip of the jump or you'll throw it too hard, lose all control and risk over-rotating and landing on your head.
Instead get a good solid pop off the lip and then push through with your hips up to the sky whilst looking back. As you come around and start to see the landing start bringing your feet back under you in time for impact.
If you've done it on tramps and diving boards and you get a good controlled pop then you'll be fine.
Instead get a good solid pop off the lip and then push through with your hips up to the sky whilst looking back. As you come around and start to see the landing start bringing your feet back under you in time for impact.
If you've done it on tramps and diving boards and you get a good controlled pop then you'll be fine.
IanAvery-Leaf
Active member
this awesome new video should help you a lot
I did one last season then got real scared and never did another one so I'm stoked to try more this season
/images/flash_video_placeholder.png
I did one last season then got real scared and never did another one so I'm stoked to try more this season
/images/flash_video_placeholder.png
HabitualShred
Member
If you can find an airbag. Those things are unreal. You can try anything into those things without having to worry. I tryed one in to an air bag and was really suprised on how easily they actually were. Did it to snow the same day and all was good. Just commit!
nine50seven
Member
Can't do one on a tramp or anything. I watched a bunch of tutorials and they all say it's easy just have to commit ago I hope they are right
TimRiley
Active member
https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/mobile/forumread/id/764653/
This guy did a great how to video explaining backflips.
This guy did a great how to video explaining backflips.
CheddarJack
Active member
haha yes! That's my brother's friend!
Anyway, there's a lot of shitty advice out there about learning a backflip. This is the advice that I once got from a coach and is how I learned.
It's a lot different than what I had previously thought and when I tried
before I got this advice, I fell and broke my collarbone. I stomped it
first try (on an airbag) with this advice.
First thing: you're not gunna be doing it on a 40 foot jump your first time so get the image of laying it out completely out of your head. If you try to lay it out on the smaller kicker that you're probably going to try it on, you'll fall on your head/shoulders. Try to pick a jump with a forgiving landing too. It'll be safer and will be easier to commit to.
Second: backflips are not about your head. They're about your hips/lower body. When you come off the jump, you want your body to be straight and perpendicular to the kicker with your head still looking forward. Once you come off the jump, suck your knees up (don't throw your arms past where they'd be in an athletic position) and try to watch your skis come up. You're probably going to crank your head back here, but that's alright, as long as it's after you completely come off the jump.
Third: Once your knees are up and you're in an athletic position, hold that position until you spot your landing by tilting your head back. It helps to look for the trees or whatever is near the horizon to help you get a sense of where you are in the air. Once you spot your landing, you can straighten out to slow your rotation.
Have fun!
Anyway, there's a lot of shitty advice out there about learning a backflip. This is the advice that I once got from a coach and is how I learned.
It's a lot different than what I had previously thought and when I tried
before I got this advice, I fell and broke my collarbone. I stomped it
first try (on an airbag) with this advice.
First thing: you're not gunna be doing it on a 40 foot jump your first time so get the image of laying it out completely out of your head. If you try to lay it out on the smaller kicker that you're probably going to try it on, you'll fall on your head/shoulders. Try to pick a jump with a forgiving landing too. It'll be safer and will be easier to commit to.
Second: backflips are not about your head. They're about your hips/lower body. When you come off the jump, you want your body to be straight and perpendicular to the kicker with your head still looking forward. Once you come off the jump, suck your knees up (don't throw your arms past where they'd be in an athletic position) and try to watch your skis come up. You're probably going to crank your head back here, but that's alright, as long as it's after you completely come off the jump.
Third: Once your knees are up and you're in an athletic position, hold that position until you spot your landing by tilting your head back. It helps to look for the trees or whatever is near the horizon to help you get a sense of where you are in the air. Once you spot your landing, you can straighten out to slow your rotation.
Have fun!
I have seen many, many first backflip attempts over the years. Personally, I ate shit on my first attempt on a park jump.
From my experience the biggest fails are:
Smacking your head off the lip.
Issue: Person gets over excited, worried about under rotation and hucks too aggressively.
Fix: Take the dudes advice above.
and
Stalling the rotation / catching your tips on the knuckle
Issue: Person has poor body control and air awareness, or simply hucks it and hopes for the best.
Fix: Go BIG on the tramp and diving. You want to be able to do nice lazyboy backflips in training so you learn Try a backflip off of a 2.5M or even 5 M platform. Having a lot of air time is key because it will teach you about body control, timing, making adjustments in the air, air awareness, and confidence.
If fear is your biggest problem, my best advice would be to just accept that you are trying something dangerous, and you are risking injury. But you are totally OK with that because you love skiing, you want to push yourself, and every single decent freeskier had to go through the same moment at one point or another. good luck!
From my experience the biggest fails are:
Smacking your head off the lip.
Issue: Person gets over excited, worried about under rotation and hucks too aggressively.
Fix: Take the dudes advice above.
and
Stalling the rotation / catching your tips on the knuckle
Issue: Person has poor body control and air awareness, or simply hucks it and hopes for the best.
Fix: Go BIG on the tramp and diving. You want to be able to do nice lazyboy backflips in training so you learn Try a backflip off of a 2.5M or even 5 M platform. Having a lot of air time is key because it will teach you about body control, timing, making adjustments in the air, air awareness, and confidence.
If fear is your biggest problem, my best advice would be to just accept that you are trying something dangerous, and you are risking injury. But you are totally OK with that because you love skiing, you want to push yourself, and every single decent freeskier had to go through the same moment at one point or another. good luck!
John18_6
Active member
I'm having the problem I think I'll be too scared to throw one on a park jump. I have perfect air awareness on tramp (I haven't under/over rotated a backflip since I learned them). But I have the fear that I'll puss out because where I ski, the snow is so hard that if you don't land on your feet, you're pretty much done for the season. Maybe I can build a pow jump and go for it, but hell no at hyland.
John18_6
Active member
So true. Sometimes you get lucky with a warm powder day, those are my favorite days. Had a little huckfest when I was at giants ridge when there was an 8" storm in April, one of the best days I've ever had skiing. Other days, you are on an ice rink, like the blast of -5° temps after 3 days of freezing rain, this is when even straight airs are dangerous.
halfpipedream
Member
if you've never thrown a backie at all or aren't comfortable doing them, not on trampoline or off a diving board or anything, then DEFINITELY get it down with one of those more safe options. Muscle memory is huge when it comes to growing the lady balls and committing to it. That way you don't have to think about your actual body, just the timing.
Mr_pretzel
Active member
Build a small kicky jump into a nice powder landing and just commit.
Shmeetman12345
New member
Help me out here plz I can’t tell what I’m doing wrong. Thx[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/924194/A8437EBB-5A13-4ED0-B7B8-AFB44422E987-MOV[/video]
DirtYStylE
Active member
13996830:Shmeetman12345 said:
Hell yeah dude getting sendy!
Its pretty hard to see whats going on. Next time have the filmer stand off to the side of the jump so we can see better. It looks 100% like you did not get enough speed.
