They are alright at rails, great at jumps and everything else except anything over 10 inches of powder which is understandable. I felt like being a dumbass and went through a field of death cookies and they handeld them suprising well. Definately get the extra lenth it helps soo much. Super comftable at high speeds, I got up to 74mph and they were begging for more speed. The biggest jump I've taken them was a 30 footer and they felt so natural in the air. Anything better then a 30 foot table I'd get the Alpha 1. I'm 6' 170lbs and the 182's are a perfect match.