Armada delamination

[steezbox]

Today I got back from a good day of slushy spring park laps and noticed some slight delamination happening on my ARV 86s. Thing is, it's not super significant yet, but I'm worried it'll get worse. Anyone had a similar type of delam happen?

Also, I've seen threads about Armada warranty in the past but they're a bit old. Warranty covers them within 2 years, I've had these for 3. I'll message them anyway, but just checking if anyone has recent experience. I can't afford new park skis right now

 

[backyardcracker]

Today I got back from a good day of slushy spring park laps and noticed some slight delamination happening on my ARV 86s. Thing is, it's not super significant yet, but I'm worried it'll get worse. Anyone had a similar type of delam happen?

Also, I've seen threads about Armada warranty in the past but they're a bit old. Warranty covers them within 2 years, I've had these for 3. I'll message them anyway, but just checking if anyone has recent experience. I can't afford new park skis right now

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i'd look it up what you can use to try and seal that

i'll be honest, i don't personally know what to do, but hopefully someone else does.

good luck though, i hope they hold up

 

[aguo5520]

have the same exact delam issue on my arv tis from years ago, haven't fixed it yet but I'm going to try heating up some marine epoxy and putting it in the delam area, then going to clamp down that edge with a bunch of clamps overnight

 

[Hogis]

Get it dry and nice, and then seal it up with some Aquatite (or similar flexible glue). Regular epoxy will not work.

It obviously won't be as good as before but you'll be able to cramp a couple of days/weeks out of them.

 

[Ralphamus]

This is the stuff you want. Doesn’t crack and break out like epoxy. Saved my season for my arv106s. Just have to re apply sometimes because it will start to peel away after a few days of riding.

 

[TOAST.]

G-flex epoxy is what you want. I've tried that goop stuff and it doesn't compare to Gflex.

 

[dolanslebensraum]

have the same exact delam issue on my arv tis from years ago, haven't fixed it yet but I'm going to try heating up some marine epoxy and putting it in the delam area, then going to clamp down that edge with a bunch of clamps overnight

In my exp epoxy is magic.

also, arent armadas supposed to be very durable?

did you guys delam your skis hitting sketchy rails?

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[TRVP_ANGEL]

This is the stuff you want. Doesn’t crack and break out like epoxy. Saved my season for my arv106s. Just have to re apply sometimes because it will start to peel away after a few days of riding.

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[tag=255817]@CLQ[/tag] this is just the diet version of gwynneth paltrows goop

 

[steezbox]

In my exp epoxy is magic.

also, arent armadas supposed to be very durable?

did you guys delam your skis hitting sketchy rails?

**This post was edited on Mar 9th 2020 at 8:05:21pm

Yeah, I'm actually kinda confused by it. I've had em for three years, but I'm someone who usually can only get out like 15 times per season . And I was only hitting the occasional down rail, mostly hitting jumps. I knuckled a 45ft. once and ate shit, but I doubt that would've been it.

Anyways, I appreciate the responses. Seems mostly like epoxy (or some variation of it), and clamps. I was just hoping these would last a couple more years. We'll see if a home fix can add a longer life! Hopefully more than just temporarily extending the lifespan.

 

[RudyGarmisch]

G-Flex + Heat Gun:

1) stand the ski on edge and apply a bead of mixed epoxy to the area

2) apply gentle heat gun so epoxy runs into the ski as deep as possible - I've even opened the delam more with razors or popsicle sticks - also, make sure to breath the fumes heavily

3) brace with plastic (preferably UHMW, epoxy will not bond to it) above and below delam

4) c-clamp your sandwich, wipe off excess epoxy

5) wait 24 hours for full cure

The epoxy will likely slowly crack and fall out, but its keeping water out of the core and hopefully extending the life of the ski a few years.

 

[dolanslebensraum]

Yeah, I'm actually kinda confused by it. I've had em for three years, but I'm someone who usually can only get out like 15 times per season . And I was only hitting the occasional down rail, mostly hitting jumps. I knuckled a 45ft. once and ate shit, but I doubt that would've been it.

Anyways, I appreciate the responses. Seems mostly like epoxy (or some variation of it), and clamps. I was just hoping these would last a couple more years. We'll see if a home fix can add a longer life! Hopefully more than just temporarily extending the lifespan.

G-Flex + Heat Gun:

1) stand the ski on edge and apply a bead of mixed epoxy to the area

2) apply gentle heat gun so epoxy runs into the ski as deep as possible - I've even opened the delam more with razors or popsicle sticks - also, make sure to breath the fumes heavily

3) brace with plastic (preferably UHMW, epoxy will not bond to it) above and below delam

4) c-clamp your sandwich, wipe off excess epoxy

5) wait 24 hours for full cure

The epoxy will likely slowly crack and fall out, but its keeping water out of the core and hopefully extending the life of the ski a few years.

Ive been researching strongest epoxies for the last hour and i think jb weld might be even better than gflex. Jbweld is good on fiber plastics, which i think is whats going to be on either side of the delam

 

[steezbox]

G-Flex + Heat Gun:

1) stand the ski on edge and apply a bead of mixed epoxy to the area

2) apply gentle heat gun so epoxy runs into the ski as deep as possible - I've even opened the delam more with razors or popsicle sticks - also, make sure to breath the fumes heavily

3) brace with plastic (preferably UHMW, epoxy will not bond to it) above and below delam

4) c-clamp your sandwich, wipe off excess epoxy

5) wait 24 hours for full cure

The epoxy will likely slowly crack and fall out, but its keeping water out of the core and hopefully extending the life of the ski a few years.

This is a good tutorial. Anyways I'll give this a shot and then see how it goes! Hopefully I save them.