they take some getting used to, but now i really enjoy mine. not the best for rails, but a really fun ski that you can lay down some good turns and has a very fun flex. easy for nollies and stuff. also i had a surprise pow day on saturday so these were the only skis that i brought and so i skied 8 inches of new all day on them and they did way better than expected in fresh snow. i honestly was impressed. the biggest downside from what i've seen so far is they do not do very well at all when skiing hard packed bumps and crud