i ride them for park, but i have it on the freeride line, i dont like centermounts... its alot of tail on the freeride though... huge base = easy to land... if you're big or strong enough to be able to turn them easily they're really good, but i know alot of ppl that have tried mine and can't turn them for shit, it just takes some getting used to, i went from old 1080s to the MSPs, and let me say "Once you go fat(er) you'll never go back"