Answering to binding adjustment question: the memo

I bought this year's full tilt doggers and love them except when combined with my 08/09 marker griffon bindings there is some movement in the toe. The binding does not have any vertical adjustment options. My buddy recommended I buy new (bigger I'm assuming) AFD's. Good idea? Or are there any other options to help fix my problem ... +k for help. Thanks
 
If the message isnt clear enough, which apparently it isnt:

If you have binding questions, GO TO A SHOP. Dont trust mounts and dins to people over the internet, go to someone who you know KNOWS.
 
if that was pointed at me, i am just repeating what was posted by k2/marker/ft in other threads when they addressed the toe slop issue between ft/dalbello bindings and the 08/09 jester toepiece
 
HAHA SOOO TRUE i adjusted my bindings my self and on a landing after a a 3 in the glades my leg got caugt up and i dislocated it tore ligaments and bruised cartilidge
 
Hi, I was just wondering if it would be a bad idea to change my din from like a 4 to a 6 or so on my old little skis.

I used them when i was like 5'5 100lbs, I'm now 5'10 130lbs...

Gonna be using them on a little skate rail setup in my front yard i made w/ surplus snow.

Is it ok to do it yourself and not get it pressure checked w/e the other shit is they do at the shops or is it unsafe?

Bindings were used for like 1 season when i was just learning to ski so they havent seen much damage or abuse
 
if a griffon is mounted on afterbangs for a 315 bsl and i have a 302 bsl would it be able to adjust that much? i dont wanna make a whole thread on this
 
it depends on where your heel was mounted on the tray, but I highly doubt it. Moving more than 10mm is 9/10 a re-mount.
 
pff i honestly dont know what to set my DIN at anymore

i have atomic panics with marker squire bindings set at DIN 5

at the sport shop they calibrated them by age/weight/skier type etc.

but sometimes it releases too quick for my liking (pretty aggressive)

so i is it recomended cranking them up just a bit?
 
I work in a ski shop and the chart(s) we use to determine din settings are definitely geared towards general groomer skiing, and not aggressive/park/bc skiing.

Im not going to officially recommended you to crank em, but thats what a lot of people do. i just gradually increased my din day by day until i found a setting i was comfortable with.
 
I weigh just over 135 lbs,I am 5'7" and I have 177 line step ups and I am an expert skier,Is it bad that I am running marker jesters on the lowest setting of 6?my shop that mounted them said I was fine and I got a great deal on the bindings,otherwise I would have bought griffons.What do you guys think?
 
This question was posted in another stickied thread but I just wanted to get a few more opinions and explanations.

I have ar7s(Not symmetrical) with fks 140s. I'm planning on doing 60% park, 40% all mountain, and being on the east when I do decide to go all mountain I want to be able to carve fine with no worries. But when I'm in the park, I want to be able to ride out switch fine. Do I need the center mount because I heard it affects your all mountain performance for the worse? Also, if I had it mounted at -2.5(factory recc), would I still be able to ride out switch fine. I'm just talking riding out switch, I don't plan on doing switch groomers or anything. So -2.5 or center, or somewhere in between? And how does -2.5 even affect riding out switch, because if it doesn't then I'll just get it at -2.5 since I value carving more than riding switch for like 15 seconds.

 
If you have to ask about your din on the internet, you don't know what your doing so go to a good shop and ask some one who does know what there doing...
 
I have a pair of this years Surface One Lives and Watch Lives, both mounted with FKS 140.

I weigh like 120 lbs, will probably put on 5-10 lbs by ski season and am 5'9"

however, i dont ski a park, and really charge big mountain lines and such. I have skied my whole life, and go fast and hard.

So... what din?

id say the one lives will be used for 10% deep pow 60% choppy pow 40% all mountain (no park)

For the watch lives: 30% park 60% all mountain 10% pow

when i say all mountain i mean moguls, charging steep chutes and such in hardpack, etc.

soooo... help me out NS?
 
Skis can usually be drilled up to three times so you shouldn't have a problem getting the bindings remounted. However, you might not be able to have the bindings mounted at exact center, depending on where the previous holes were drilled, because the new holes need to be a certain distance from the old holes for safety reasons.
 
This is not exactly about adjusting bindings, but the back part of my marker griffons popped off, it seemd that nothing broke, so i slid the binding back to the track mounted on the ski. It locked to its place and i just adjusted the length a bit so my boot could fit. It seems like it doesnt come off and holds there, but is it safe to ski or will it come off?

 
You really need to take your set up (with your boots) to your local shop or the mountain shop and have it checked out. Don't gamble with your knees, legs, hips, life.
 
Is the worm further forward than back on the track? Essentially having less threads in the track? Because that'll cause it to come off.
 
I have 06 Volkl Racetiger GS with Head 26.5 ski boots. The binding is set to 305 for boot sole length and it is easily adjustable. I just purchased Atomic HAWX 120 boots. I am satisfied with my DIN settings I do not want to change the DIN settings. Do I need to make any changes to the binding settings to accommodate for a new boot?

Thank you.
 
The shop tech who mounted my solly driver 14s was an idiot and didn't adjust the toe wings or height at all and when I got back home I noticed like 3 mm of vertical play in the toe. The shop is an hour and a half from my house so I'm not going back, so I just adjusted the vertical screw myself. I changed nothing else. Is this going to affect my release at all, like do I need to have someone at a better shop check them before I ride them, or am I good to go? It's my first time not owning marker bindings in 25 years of skiing.
 
I dont think my local shop even sells look binding and I don't really think they know allot about any bindings, therefor I am going to go ahed and ask you guys for advice on where to set my din regardless of how much hate I might get. Yes, I realize this is on my own risk and I am looking for guidelines...Info

Age: 18

Skis: new 4frnt Click 177

Bindings: new look px 12 jib (my boots sit tight in my bindings..)

Boots: salomon ghost 100, size: 26.5, 305mm sole length

Height: 5.8

Weight: 148 Ibs (pretty skinny)

Ability: A decent all around skier, I ski 95 % park and my best tricks are (ugly 7s) and switch 5s. I don't spin on the biggest jumps and I hit lots of rails..

Are I wrong with thinking that the only thing you adjust if your bindings are properly mounted is the screw on the toe and heel pice, cause I honestly don't see why giving advice/guidelines and making people set their din themselves are that big of a deal? Probably a really dumb question but whatever...

Thanks!
 
OK here I go I'm 6'1” weigh 210# ski on a nornordica 177cm ski have nx10 bindings with a boot sole length of 349mm. I ski semiagresive I'm not afraid to hit a 40' kicker and land clean most of the time. By the way in the Midwest so all groomers current din is set at 7 I keep popping out when landing switch or on a hard hockey stop aare these bindings even right for me? Or should I just take the din up a little bit? Thanks
 
check the forward pressure sure, but why would you be on a pair of NX 10s? Who told you that was a good Idea. They aren't a bad binding but they have no elastic travel. If you like look/rossi get a Pivit or FKS or at least a PX with a higher din.
 
im a ski tech for snow and rock in the uk , all i would say is get somebody who knows how to do it , to do it > don't be stupid and do it your self because you'll most likely break yourself
 
Should the heal piece on a jester binding be able to move a few millimeters sideways? Also how much space is recommended between the binding and the boot?
 
I am 5'9 136 pretty aggressive skier and just had my marker squires mounted on my line traveling circuses. The din is set at 4 and if i stand in it and lean forward the heel piece moves a little bit. Apox where should my din be set and should this be happening to the heal piece while standing in my room?
 
9053000:s.nenkov said:
Hello,I just bought the marker griffon 12 binding. I am 5.9 ft 165 pounds. I have been skiing since i was 2 years old every sesason, now i'm 19. I got into freestyle last lear so you could say I am a beginner in this area, however I feel very comfortable on my skis and and still go fast on them. Could anybody suggest what should i put my bindings on ?Thank you
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LIKE THE EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD IS SAYING TAKE IT TO YOUR LOCAL SHOP....

LET THE PROS THAT ARE CERTIFIED AND KNOW WHAT THE ARE DOING DO IT FOR YOU..

KID'S THESE DAY DON'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING
 
Hey ns, quick question about din settings, my skis seem to always pop off whenever i land switch, while my dins are at around 6 (out of 12). I weigh around 155 lbs and ski mostly park, can someone recommend what to adjust em to so my skis will only fall off when absolutely necessary to avoid injury?
 
I just got my skis mounted for 27.5 full tilt drop kicks but my boots are actually too small so I'm getting 28.5 drop kicks instead. . Will my skis need to be remounted?
 
13230531:BaileyB said:
Hey ns, quick question about din settings, my skis seem to always pop off whenever i land switch, while my dins are at around 6 (out of 12). I weigh around 155 lbs and ski mostly park, can someone recommend what to adjust em to so my skis will only fall off when absolutely necessary to avoid injury?
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I'm not a shop tech so don't quote me on this but I like mine a little looser just cuz I play hockey and really don't need any injury. I put mine at about 9.5 and that's lucky for me. They pop off when needed but stay solid for hard landings
 
13230531:BaileyB said:
Hey ns, quick question about din settings, my skis seem to always pop off whenever i land switch, while my dins are at around 6 (out of 12). I weigh around 155 lbs and ski mostly park, can someone recommend what to adjust em to so my skis will only fall off when absolutely necessary to avoid injury?
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13621099:mccrakken. said:
I'm not a shop tech so don't quote me on this but I like mine a little looser just cuz I play hockey and really don't need any injury. I put mine at about 9.5 and that's lucky for me. They pop off when needed but stay solid for hard landings
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Still fucks with my mind that people, to this day are still giving binding recommendations based on nothing. Absolutely nothing.
 
I have read this entire thread and there are a few things I wonder about this... I really hope I get some good responses to this other than 'Don't be an IDIOT you HAVE to take your skis to a CERTIFIED TECH!!!'

Firstly I will note there are 3 stereotypes of people I see on here:

1 - People who think anyone who lets non-certified techs touch their skis are at risk / being unsafe

2 - People who crank their DINs for little to no reason

3 - People who slowly adjust their DINs based off of real-world experience while skiing

I am with group 3. Group 2 I think is being unsafe. Group 1 I understand... to an extent... Sure, I get why you should not take DIN advice from others online. But I need some convincing before I totally buy the 'OMG YOU NEED TO HAVE A TECH DO IT OR ELSE YOU ARE SCREWED' mentality that I just read a lot of. So I please ask you to explain the following...

When people get their bindings mounted and set by certified techs and then realize they are popping out too often what happens then?

Take skis back to certified tech... and... ? What are they going to do? If all factors like forward pressure are correct and they went by the chart for your height/weight/ability/boot size/etc... what do they do if the skier is still ejecting more than they like?

Do they bump up your DINs a bit? Do nothing and tell you that everything is fine? What basis would they have for recommendations on what to do? Aren't techs not 'allowed' to raise DINs beyond the charts they go by? What if these values conflict with the skiers actual experience on the slopes?

I wonder this because EVERY time I have had bindings mounted by shops my bindings are set too low for my liking. By quite a bit IMO. Certain things would cause me to eject when I really didn't want to. I have been injured this way FAR MORE OFTEN than my bindings not ejecting. To counter this I do what many others here do - slowly raise the DINs by like 1/4-1/2 until comfortable with the situations that make me eject. Now I ONLY eject when I need to based off of actual skiing. I have ejected ~10 times at my current DIN and every time I was glad my ski(s) came off. This is exactly what I wanted.

My stats for reference / if they matter:

Age 25 / 6' 165lbs / type 3 aggressive park skier / ~282mm BSL (i think) / look pivot 12 bindings

dinsetting.com says I should be at 8.5 with this info. I am pretty sure my skis come out of the shop at something closer to a 7-8... don't remember

Again, through experience the certified shop settings weren't working for me and I would release quite often when I did not want to (jump landings, sometimes gripping rails, etc) so I ride a 9.5 now.

SO:

How is going back to a tech for releasing too often any better than slowly raising my DIN settings myself? What additional value does this provide me?
 
So I just got a pair of demo Kartel 98's with Tyrolla Attack 13 bindings. My question is that my boot size is probably a size or two larger than the binding was mounted for (29.5 instead of 27.5 for demos). When they adjust the bindings to fit my boot will it push me further back on the ski by that length or can I move the top and bottom piece equally to maintain the same center with a larger boot?

Thanks NS
 
If I buy bindings and have them mounted but my feet are still growing and say I buy bigger boots next year do i have to remount my bindings or is there wiggle room for adjustment.
 
I don't want to be that guy but I'm going to be that guy.

This has been stickied for 11 years but the formatting is absolute trash. Lots of typos too... Why can't a mod fix the spelling/grammar errors and formatting? As long as the information being shared doesn't change it should only help. I'd hate visit a website for the first time and all of the pinned posts looked like this.
 
Okay pretty aware that this is a noob question, but I weigh 140 pounds and am 5’6. I’m on pivot 12’s mounted to 177 cm skis. I have no real knowledge about dins other than mine are set to 6, however they pop off nearly every time I butter. Because of this I want to adjust them higher but I don’t want to go to high and destroy my knees, does anyone have any advice or opinion on a ballpark of where I should set them?
 
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