Another fuck virtika thread

muffMan.

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Was just searching tall t productions on Google to check out any deals, and see virtika is paying for ads to get above Tall T on search. Not even selling real tall ts just t shirts.

Just a scummy buisness IMO.

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Those shirts are so wack too lmaooo. And they’re discounted so u know he just couldn’t sell them so he resorted to this
 
14530156:BLandz said:
Those shirts are so wack too lmaooo. And they’re discounted so u know he just couldn’t sell them so he resorted to this
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Fr them shits just look like they came out of a denver gift shop

he has that dgaf attitude though so respect for that

**This post was edited on Apr 17th 2023 at 5:12:17pm
 
topic:muffMan. said:
Just a scummy buisness IMO.
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Well good thing you don't run a business. This is a very basic business practice, SEO is very important these days, not even close to "scummy".
 
14530204:eheath said:
Well good thing you don't run a business. This is a very basic business practice, SEO is very important these days, not even close to "scummy".
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SEO is to try to be the top hit for a type of product, not literally stealing someone's branding for yourself and out bidding them on Google ads.
 
14530206:r00kie said:
SEO is to try to be the top hit for a type of product, not literally stealing someone's branding for yourself and out bidding them on Google ads.
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Being at the top (buying an ad) is part of Search Engine Optimization as well, no point getting nit picky when you know I'm right.
 
This doesn’t happen when I google ttp. Maybe you been on the virtika site recently, or abandoned a cart with them and you are just being retargeted.
 
14530210:-Dan said:
This doesn’t happen when I google ttp. Maybe you been on the virtika site recently, or abandoned a cart with them and you are just being retargeted.
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same here. When I search, the ad above Tall T productions is a Tall T prod ad. It's just targeted advertising and I am guessing he has searched for virtika a few times.
 
14530210:-Dan said:
This doesn’t happen when I google ttp. Maybe you been on the virtika site recently, or abandoned a cart with them and you are just being retargeted.
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It be real for me

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14530207:eheath said:
Being at the top (buying an ad) is part of Search Engine Optimization as well, no point getting nit picky when you know I'm right.
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Bidding someone out of the name of their company on Google Ads would be an abuse of SEO. But there's a lot more to SEO than just bidding. It has a lot to do with site content.
 
14530210:-Dan said:
This doesn’t happen when I google ttp. Maybe you been on the virtika site recently, or abandoned a cart with them and you are just being retargeted.
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14530214:Profahoben_212 said:
same here. When I search, the ad above Tall T productions is a Tall T prod ad. It's just targeted advertising and I am guessing he has searched for virtika a few times.
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Sponsored still has to mean something, also cleared my cookies and search and it was still there.

Plus just naming it “tall t productions” is a bit of a rip, for just plain t shirts
 
14530210:-Dan said:
This doesn’t happen when I google ttp. Maybe you been on the virtika site recently, or abandoned a cart with them and you are just being retargeted.
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Yeah same
 
14530250:r00kie said:
Bidding someone out of the name of their company on Google Ads would be an abuse of SEO. But there's a lot more to SEO than just bidding. It has a lot to do with site content.
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my point is that businesses using keywords from other brands is completely normal and not scummy.
 
14530252:muffMan. said:
Sponsored still has to mean something
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it means they are paying to be put at the top of the list for a selection of search items, its an advertisement
 
14530265:eheath said:
my point is that businesses using keywords from other brands is completely normal and not scummy.
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Using another companies name that they have a right too is not the same as a keyword lol.
 
14530270:r00kie said:
Using another companies name that they have a right too is not the same as a keyword lol.
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you can 100% add a name of a company as a search term for your website, im guessing tall t productions doesn't spend as much on google, or depending on your search history/previously viewed pages is more significant.

there are tons of variables, everyone seems to have different results, virtika shows up under tall t productions when I search them on google.

the internet is sort of the wild west when it comes to search, you can do basically anything you want. i remember when I worked at NS we did a ton of shit to show up on different searches, it's a very common practice. SEO is fascinating really.
 
14530275:eheath said:
you can 100% add a name of a company as a search term for your website, im guessing tall t productions doesn't spend as much on google, or depending on your search history/previously viewed pages is more significant.

there are tons of variables, everyone seems to have different results, virtika shows up under tall t productions when I search them on google.

the internet is sort of the wild west when it comes to search, you can do basically anything you want. i remember when I worked at NS we did a ton of shit to show up on different searches, it's a very common practice. SEO is fascinating really.
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Imagine thinking keywords and intellectual property theft are the same thing.
 
14530265:eheath said:
my point is that businesses using keywords from other brands is completely normal and not scummy.
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Just because something is a normal business practice doesnt mean that its not scummy. Disguising your products as a different company’s to try and trick people into buying your shitty product is absolutely a scummy thing to do
 
14530282:Paul. said:
Just because something is a normal business practice doesnt mean that its not scummy. Disguising your products as a different company’s to try and trick people into buying your shitty product is absolutely a scummy thing to do
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fair enough
 
It's crazy that the people deleting my threads are standing up for David lesh... It reveals the inner workings , pay to play... Really disappointing.

The kids deserve better.
 
Those Virtika shirts are whack. Are they trying to be in tourist shops or something? Lesh is from Wisconsin but theres a CO Native shirt lol.
 
14530354:partyandBS said:
Those Virtika shirts are whack. Are they trying to be in tourist shops or something? Lesh is from Wisconsin but theres a CO Native shirt lol.
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Almost like he's marketing to the folks where his company is based.
 
14530204:eheath said:
Well good thing you don't run a business. This is a very basic business practice, SEO is very important these days, not even close to "scummy".
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this isnt seo , SEO is optimizing your website organically. SEM is bidding for keywords

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14530207:eheath said:
Being at the top (buying an ad) is part of Search Engine Optimization as well, no point getting nit picky when you know I'm right.
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its not dude, SEM is buying ads... SEO is all Organic optimizations. you aren't an expert on everything like you think
 
14530451:J_Steez said:
its not dude, SEM is buying ads... SEO is all Organic optimizations. you aren't an expert on everything like you think
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whatever dude its potato - potato I never said I was an expert, but I have experienced a ton of search related discussions and practices, the point is this kind of stuff common practice and people get sensitive about their favorite ski brands and lose all sense of reality.
 
14530455:eheath said:
whatever dude its potato - potato I never said I was an expert, but I have experienced a ton of search related discussions and practices, the point is this kind of stuff common practice and people get sensitive about their favorite ski brands and lose all sense of reality.
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yea this ad placement is definitely something someone would do so non-chalant in a business setting. definitely a bit scummy regardless.
 
14530464:J_Steez said:
yea this ad placement is definitely something someone would do so non-chalant in a business setting. definitely a bit scummy regardless.
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That's business baby
 
real successful businesses, do not practice this. those who condone are exposing themselves as they are, deceptive, jealous, evil, people willing to destroy others success to promote their own... or hide their lackings.... yikes

real successful businesses collab with others, support the community, and well, are real, successful businesses...
 
14530207:eheath said:
Being at the top (buying an ad) is part of Search Engine Optimization as well, no point getting nit picky when you know I'm right.
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I have run a small digital agency for 4 years now and what david lesh is doing is actually SEM. Search Engine Marketing is paid search engine ads. It does however add "juice" to your organic listings which is where SEO comes into play. So sortttta SEO but primarily SEM with this situation.
 
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