Air game vs rail game

Phog.

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i have a pretty good rail game, but what i can do off jumps is really shitty. anyone else feel this way?
 
Any person can fucking hop around on a rail. In most cases you have to be a decent skier to have the air sense to do well on jumps. I know there are exceptions but that is what I have generally noticed.
 
haha,you need a good balance in everything.

" i like to see a skier that do pillow lines and then go to a big park shoot and hit jumps and then go to a city and slide rails..." - Tanner hall every day is a Saturday. ( may have reworrded it. soorrrrrrry i dont have it memerized)
 
Being a decent skiier != having air sense, that's why they can take washed up gymnasts and turn them into aerials skiiers. Having the balance and awareness to hop around on a small metal bar isn't something anyone can just decide to do. Rails also require very good control of your skis to edge correctly and for taps and such. Jumping is by no means easy, but saying that rails aren't difficult is kind of stupid.
 
Air sense is pretty hard to get good at. Not to mention you have to get past mental blocks when it comes to hitting jumps. Its not nearly as scary when it comes to rails.
 
the mental blocks are there for all bigg features.

every one is scared when hitting their first 40' step down

and

every one is scared when hitting their first double kink.

 
Eh not really. Once you get used to hitting downrails, kink boxes and such, the double kinks come like easy. Just taking a kink rail and adding a 2nd kink. Not that hard.
 
im sorry tom wallisch, i didnt know youre the best in the world.

haha ;)

i was just trying to say somthing. GOD! hah
 
Both take lots of skill to learn. Repitition and experience are what make rail / jump tricks look clean and smooth. whether it's a floating mute 3 or a 2 on to a dfd.
 
Yeah... I suck at both... The closest I can get to flips is a blunt cork 7, and the hardest rail trick I can do is either a disaster 4 on a box or a super fed on a wide dfd rail.

But I don't really care weather air or rails is cooler. I go out to have fun.
 
for me, jumps are so much easier. just sack up and do whatever it is you wanna learn. crashing on a 40 foot jump isn't that bad if its a nice steep landing (assuming you arent inverted)
 
Haha it's all relative. The way I see it, there are 12 year olds stomping dub corks all day and there's no way to compare to that. Like I said though. I go out to have fun and that's all I really care about.
 
Neither one requires being a good skier. At all. I bet you that you could take the men's US Olympic gymnast team and they would be throwing doubles with a year of straight skiing even if they had never strapped on sticks before.
Now good skiing on the other hand, takes time to learn.
 
That was me at the beginning of the year because last season i drastically improved my rail game, and this year I've been really pushing jumps to balance it out
 
that's totally false. i would have believed you like 6-7 years ago, but park skiing is at a level that is equivalent if not better at training kids how to ski than any other discipline. Candide won the FWT he's a park skier. and gymnast would not be able to carve lips, ski switch at all, or understand the nuances of style. i think rails and jumps both require good balance edge control, proper stance/vision, air awareness, and style... these are the aspects of a good skier and can be applied to any discipline. I can do much more on rails, i think being a rail nerd is legit if you can still throw at least some steezy shit on big jumps.
 
depends what the person is comfortable with.... i don't ski many rails besides down and flats.. I feel more comfortable throwing a 360 off a 45 footer than hitting a down flat down.... also I have a much better rail skill compared to box skill. I think it depends on the individual.
 
I think if you focus more on jumps rails come kind of naturally. I'm not that good at either, but I mostly hit jumps this year and at the end of the day a few times I started hitting the rails and surprised myself that I was actually decent at them and could do switch ups and 2s on and such, and hadn't really tried any of it before. That being said though, I'm more scared of rails than I am jumps, never really hurt myself badly on a jump other than a concussion and hitting my face a couple times, snapped right through my humerus catching my edge on a little up down box
 
i dont ski rails because i cant afford new skis every season. and i tried to hit them but they are hard. and i like my edges sharp.

but jumps are super easy. my 5th day of the season which i havent ridden in two years i hit a 25 ft no problem. just takes balls
 
I fell the same. Im really good on rails, but i SUCK at jumps.. i can only do fronts, 360¨s both ways, right 540¨s and backies...
 
i dunno rails scare the shit out of me way more than big jumps do. jumps are floaty and nice, rails are hard and break your teeth when you land on them with your face.

I also don't hit big jumps before march very often because they're too damn frozen god damn ice coast. but spring booters are one of my favorite parts of skiing.
 
Nope, I see more kids everyday that switch from snowboarding because skiing is cool now and they can slide rails and do witchups no problem.

Obviously aerials are an exception, park jumps, style of tricks and technicqque is not something a gymnast would just be able to pick up no problem.
 
So... Obviously you did not see my point of anyone being able to sesh a backyard rail all summer and then come to the hill and go straight and do the same stuff.
 
So that just means that it can be easier to get better at rails because you can practice on them more, not that rails are inherently easier. If someone didn't have a summer setup and only skied during the regular season then it would be equally hard to get better at both jumps and rails.
 
i agree with your first point. there are tons of kids that can do all 4 ways 270 on pretz 270 out, but i feel like i see fewer and fewer kids that can do all 4 sevens with steeze.
but if you don't think gymnasts/aerialists can come and steal our steeze quick, you're so wrong. i remember one time back in the day (like 05-6 maybe?) the aerial team from squaw had a day off and just to be funny, they dressed all steezy and rolled through the park doing like trucked out cork 7's and shit. if you have the skill, you just gotta know what's dope to have dope style.
 
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