After knocking someone out

i was on the chair and below me i see a skier and snowboarder about to collide and the guy ends up slamming his head on the ground and gets knocked out for atleast 2 minutes with a broken helmet. however, the lady that was at fault looked back, saw the dude wasn’t moving, and just went back to skiing down the hill. not sure who was really at fault here, but i know skier lady was merging onto snowboarders trail in his blind side and was fully able to see him. ski patrol was a few chairs behind me fortunately so he radioed and some ski patrol came to help the dude. in the end they ended up letting him snowboard back down the hill so i assume he was all good. but what do you do in that situation?

thanks for reading.
 
doesnt really matter who’s at fault imo when you’re the one who ends up getting fucked up. gotta protect yourself. it’s not the same but i think it’s analogous to biking in the city. sure, the driver who hit you is legally/ technically at fault, but you’re the one with your head through a windshield with significant injuries
 
14413859:KCoCM said:
doesnt really matter who’s at fault imo when you’re the one who ends up getting fucked up. gotta protect yourself. it’s not the same but i think it’s analogous to biking in the city. sure, the driver who hit you is legally/ technically at fault, but you’re the one with your head through a windshield with significant injuries

That’s a weird way to put it lol
 
14413861:teabag said:
That’s a weird way to put it lol

maybe but imo it’s similar. i live and bike in chicago and i can’t stand other bikers that stubbornly put themselves in harms way cuz they have the right of way. if you’re in a vulnerable position right of way is not relevant to the damage that can be inflicted upon your body

edit: the analogy is that skiing/ riding in presence of others is also a vulnerable position, the other people are objects with lots of momentum, and an inelastic collision means your body is going to absorb a lot of energy

**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2022 at 9:37:05am
 
From an American perspective, it’s weird that my wife walks out on a crosswalk in Finland and expects the car going full speed to stop. I get it’s the law but it’s just an unnecessary risk in my mind, especially with the ice. Why take the risk? Like KCoCM said, it won’t matter who is at fault if you’re the one in the hospital.

I always wait to see that they see me and are slowing down for me and I do the same risk mitigation while skiing. I’ve taught my wife to always watch her back skiing and not trust other skiers too. It has saved both of us.

14413861:teabag said:
That’s a weird way to put it lol

14413867:KCoCM said:
maybe but imo it’s similar. i live and bike in chicago and i can’t stand other bikers that stubbornly put themselves in harms way cuz they have the right of way. if you’re in a vulnerable position right of way is not relevant to the damage that can be inflicted upon your body

edit: the analogy is that skiing/ riding in presence of others is also a vulnerable position, the other people are objects with lots of momentum, and an inelastic collision means your body is going to absorb a lot of energy

**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2022 at 9:37:05am

**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2022 at 9:51:09am
 
14413859:KCoCM said:
doesnt really matter who’s at fault imo when you’re the one who ends up getting fucked up. gotta protect yourself. it’s not the same but i think it’s analogous to biking in the city. sure, the driver who hit you is legally/ technically at fault, but you’re the one with your head through a windshield with significant injuries

sure, i was the one who pulled out my akimbo mac10 uzi and mag dumped him for cutting me off, but he's the one whos laying on the floor right now looking like swiss cheese
 
Fault isn't always easy to determine on the hill.

Case in point, a few weeks ago I nearly hit someone on one of those dumbass tricycle things. I was behind him and saw that he was more often than not out of control and riding erratically. In an effort to be outside his inevitable wipeout blast radius, when he took a large turn to the side I sped up through the center of the run to try to pass him. Being an idiot, he unexpectedly turned around and started traversing back more than perpendicular to the run (i.e. slightly against skier traffic.) I slammed on the brakes and swerved, barely missing him.

By the letter of the "law" in this situation, despite my best intentions of skiing specifically to avoid an accident, I would have been at fault as the uphill skier. Any reasonable observer, though, would have seen that he was riding in a way that was putting himself and everyone around him in harm's way.

Regardless of fault, regardless of whether you hit someone or someone hits you, if you get up and they don't and you just ride away - you're a shit person.
 
14413871:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
From an American perspective, it’s weird that my wife walks out on a crosswalk in Finland and expects the car going full speed to stop. I get it’s the law but it’s just an unnecessary risk in my mind, especially with the ice. Why take the risk? Like KCoCM said, it won’t matter who is at fault if you’re the one in the hospital.

I always wait to see that they see me and are slowing down for me and I do the same risk mitigation while skiing. I’ve taught my wife to always watch her back skiing and not trust other skiers too. It has saved both of us.

**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2022 at 9:51:09am

Exactly my thoughts.

No matter fault, being injured sucks. Being in the hospital sucks. Having a life changing injury sucks.

I mitigate the risks as much as reasonably possible, no matter the letter of the law.

Compensation can only do so much. Poor and uninjured is better than rich and bed ridden.
 
14413859:KCoCM said:
doesnt really matter who’s at fault imo when you’re the one who ends up getting fucked up. gotta protect yourself. it’s not the same but i think it’s analogous to biking in the city. sure, the driver who hit you is legally/ technically at fault, but you’re the one with your head through a windshield with significant injuries

110%. You can do everything right and still get fucked. People run lights, don't yield etc. No point being "right" and hurt.
 
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