ADHD is a real disability. get over it.

SirFryanator

SirFryanator

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I've seen at least 4 threads in the past month where people argue that ADHD doesn't exist and that the diagnosed are "unmotivated, lazy, and need to man the fuck up."

Well, maybe the uninformed should man up and get the facts straight. Want empirical proof? Here ya go:

Daniel Amen is a psychologist who has done numerous studies using a new kind of brain imaging technique called SPECT. Here's an article for you with conclusive images.

http://www.amenclinics.com/brain-science/spect-image-gallery/spect-atlas/images-of-attention-deficit-disorder-addadhd/#adhd

That only touches the surface of ADHD. A marked restriction in prefrontal cortex activity and the basal ganglia, the area that creates dopamine, is evident in the studies done with patients clearly diagnosed with this mental disability.

Stimulant medications close the deficit between ADHD and normal levels of the neurotransmitters such as dopamine and norepinephrine (two chemicals that are very influential on concentration and memory). The real debate here is not whether ADHD is real or not, it is whether psychostimulant medications are the best method.

Personally, I feel that Vyvanse, the medication I take, has greatly benefited me. I don't feel the need to take it nor do I even really want to take it; I already have enough trouble gaining weight as it is. I've never known what true concentration felt like before this medication, however. My brain was always all over the place. The fact that I only tuned in every other minute or so in class didn't help, even when I understood everything incredibly quickly (which is how I maintained a 4.0 GPA and didn't feel the need to ask for help up until junior year of HS).

My memory has improved remarkably. I take natural supplements to give myself an extra boost so that I don't feel dependent on the medication. My work ethic has gone up soooo much it's not even funny. I was always the kid who could write a 5 page essay the night before the due date and get an A. Now that I'm basically taking my freshman college courses in my senior year of HS, I realize that there is NO way I can do that without integrating these habits into my daily life and working around my learning disability.

Here are some ways you people with ADHD can help yourselves out without using medication, or combining it with your medication to get even further ahead:

http://www.amenclinics.com/clinics/information/ways-we-can-help/adhd-add/

I've typed out quite a bit and I could go on and on and on. I did a LOT of research before I even touched the topic of medication and I have weighed the risks and benefits. I don't plan on maintaining the medication plan past my first year of college, I'd rather deal with the neurological deficiency myself. I just don't have the skills to stop taking it right now...especially with both Micro and Macro Economics AP tests tomorrow haha!

Hope you guys are more informed now and understand what ADHD really is.

Sparknotes: If you can't read all this like I most likely wouldn't be able to before learning how to deal with my ADHD...then just click on the links I posted and that explains a lot of it. But I think you'll enjoy what I wrote as well.
 
i think its real, cause apparently i have it but its really overdiagnosed. I have a friend who gets good grades, gets nervous about everything, is almost too focused and extremely motivated. She was diagnosed with ADHD (which was total BS) and after knowing her for 10 years and knowing it was BS i wanted to go punch her doctor. of course now she medicated and more of a nervous wreck than she was before
 
OP is unmotivated, lazy, and needs to man the fuck up. I'm unmotivated and lazy as fuck but at least I admit it. Ignoring ADD diagnosis FTW!
 
I have add yes not adhd but kind of the same yes some people it vary bad and they can't sit still but for the most part a lot of people can just deal with it stop it with all these pills you don't need them.
 
my cousin has severe ADHD and moderate dyslexia. the kid can't pay attention to anything for more than 10 min..(which is a stretch) and what he does pay attention to, he often can't read. If you met someone with bad ADHD, you'd know it. Except he smokes enough bud to slow himself down so he can function(sort of) My dad and brother both have ADD it too, neither of them are very easy to hold a conversation with. medication helps but often has a side effect of depression. Sometimes I think I do, then I smoke and drink some water and I'm fine.
fry, ADHD is real, I know it.
 
This entire generation has ADD in my opinion. But ADHD is a real disease, and its his fucking life, and he has it more in control than most people on this site I'd bet.
 
I have ADHD and it's fucking curse. I am never motivated to do anything (no matter how fun that thing might be). I just sit on the computer or watch tv or ski. That's it. My brain tells me that I don't need anything else (obviously I do) so I usually don't get anything done.

Anyone who thinks that ADHD is fake is an insensitive asshole who needs to look past their own perfect lives.

However, ADD is very over-diagnosed
 
i was "diagnosed" with ADHD when i was a high school freshman, took pills for four years through high school, then two through four semesters of college... what i learned from the experience is that while i might have a short attention span, the real problem was that school fucking sucked. now i'm at the Art Institute of Las Vegas for audio production, school is awesome, and there's no "problem". you don't like doing homework or paying attention to shitty teachers... that's not a "real disability", that's a "part of life". you don't need pills for that, you need some kind of motivation.
 
i have ADHD. unfortunatly i have to take a very low dose of med because my body cant take high MG's of many med. Aderol (sp) and ridalin (sp) fucked me up in a not good way when i was younger when my family first discoverd that i had ADHD. The first Aderol pill caused me to be toatlly non responsive, severe shaking, and migranes. ADHD is a real deseas that need to be treated delicalty. but once its "undercontrol" its all good. like me
 
I'm not lazy and I'm not unmotivated at all...there are definitely kids without ADHD who are the laziest pieces of shit I've ever seen. Those are the kids who will REALLY lose the most if they pop meds.

And Rowen, I don't know if you were referring to me when I say I have it in control...I do what I can to get my brain to stay in one direction. like right now, I'm in the middle of reviewing aggregate supply curves and how capital goods affect them in the long term for my macroeconomics AP test. I also wrote this, and I'm organizing internships for my gap year next year. I'm distracted as hell right now lol

This generation doesn't have ADD or ADHD or any bs like that, there is just so much stimulation around us that it's hard for people even with extraordinary concentration abilities and motivation to stay focused.

 
ADD is over diagnosed, but to an extent

i always thought it was like something that everyone ELSE had. in highschool i started to realize that im really smart, but i have absolutely no force pushing me to work. i wanted to study, i knew i had to, but i just couldnt.

so i told my parents i really need to go get checked out and see what i can do

This last quarter (3rd quarter sophomore year), my first full quarter on pills, i have gotten the best grades of my highschool career by far.

so this shit is legit...
 
yeah man, like i knew the whole time that i was smart, but that i was like beyond lazy and that there was something wrong.

i haven't changed my lifestyle though. but like i just get the minimal amount of work done, but i pay more attention and absorb more info in school, i study a little more for tests and do more work in school and i am doing a lot better, like all 3.5's atleast. i dont do extra stuff at home though so i stilll like hang around and watch tv at night, haha
 
i've been diagnosed with ADHD which i don't agree with i am fine i get distracted like tons of people do and its my fault and have no need for medication but i have no doubts it exists my brother for one definitely has it and its exhibited in all of his behavior. you can tell when he is on his meds and when he is not.
 
dude. that's not ADHD at all...pills shouldn't be the things that bump up your grade. If you haven't changed your lifestyle, then either you don't have ADHD and you're just getting by on prescribed speed or you have a relatively minor case of ADHD that doesn't need medication.

ADHD is massively over-diagnosed, and the pharmaceutical corporations are making mad bank off of it. If you don't think you need pills, then change the way you live. It's not really that difficult if you have the right support (friends, parents, counselors if necessary).
 
Thats why i said ADD and not ADHD.

I have ADD. my life style hasnt changed except that i pay more attention and absorb and understand more in school and think clearer. i havent changed like im not studying till 3 am or anything.

and pills are most definitely things that are meant to bump up your grades. if i wasnt dissapointed with my grades and didnt think i could do better, i wouldnt have gone to get diagnosed in the first place. its alll about grades.
 
ADD doesn't really require pills. But whatever, it's your body and your life. I can be the most annoying little shit (or the most funny, depending on the situation) when I don't take my medicine. Especially in the morning and at night. I can't say that grades aren't a factor that I thought about when I was deciding whether to take meds, but they definitely weren't priority #1. They definitely were helped though.
 
ADD does exist, they just kinda meshed ADD and ADHD together. ADD is atention deficit dissorder. ADHD is like the same, but also hyper active. Like I am not very hyper, i mean im impulsive and call out and shit, but im not that bad. but when it come to focusing, ADD and ADHD people both have that problems. The other day i forgot my pill, i was sitting in Chem and found myself playing with a ruler when i would normally be taking notes or rasing my hand or something

now i take Adderall (and tried ritalin and vyvanse) and it keeps me focused, i would actually say it makes me more hyper, but less ADD, which is weird. But i'm doing really well in school because im focusing, so i can't complain.
 
but the thing is, if i focused without the pills, i would be doing great in school. Now that im on pills and im focusing in school, i am doing great. I still dont study a ton or do extra work or anything, but i focus.

i dont know how i have to explain this, but im doing great in school on pills, i wasnt before. im not abusing or anything, i take 25mg xr once a day. i have always been smart, the pills just help to bring out my smartness (not trying to claim or anything)
 
It's probably just anxiety. It's not nervousness.

She should go see a different doctor and get tested for an anxiety disorder.

oh, and just to link this thread to that crazy weed thread, my roommates in college had ADD or ADHD and when he smoked weed, he was like a normal person.
 
somebody did a study comparing kids w/adhd and kids without it and most of the adhd kids watched sesame street and the kids without it had never seen the show. the show jumps from different topic to different topic so quickly and since the brain can be molded at that age, the brain is trained to work the way the show does.
 
Yeah, when I'm high I definitely am not hyperactive at all. I still feel stoned when I smoke but it's a smoothing of the edges basically. Academics are actually more interesting and easier since I don't feel like I want to jump on top of my desk (figuratively speaking, of course) and start table dancing.
 
i was almost diagnosed with ADHD.

i used to watch sesame street.

i'm never gonna let my kid watch that show now haha
 
dawg, i agree. It's real, and some people might need medication, but the overdiagnosis has decreased the credibility of it. What upsets me is when big pharma pays for docs to go to there little conventions, and than the doc prescibes shit loads of the pill.
'merica.
 
My brother was diagnosed with autism at a young age, then as he got older the doctors "decided" it was ADHD he had.

He got strait A's all through high school and never even attended since he was off skiing.

Moral of the story: western medicine is bullshit.
 
my take, any 10 yo kid who doesnt have "ADD" has a disability. your ten for christs sake, riding your bike, playing on the play ground, hitting a baseball is supposed to be more interesting than school. hahaha

not saying it isnt real, but i can think of 3 people i knew all through HS who took pills and their problem was they wouldnt man the fuck up and get their shit done. it was their crutch....

anyho, anyone wanna go ride bikes?
 
well, adhd is a chemical imbalance in the brain, its not just a poor work ethic. i was diagnosed and i take adderall everyday now.
basically there are 3 bases of adhd :
inattentive (which everyone thinks they have, but people who dont really have it have no idea..)intrusiveand hyperactive.
to have a.d.d you dont have to have all of these. there are a lot of people that arent hyperactive at all.
the pills help balance the chemicals in the brain and help you think clearer, as well as filtering out unnecessary urges and thoughts.
usually they look for signs in kids around the age of 7, but i was always so smart that i never showed strong signs. i could deal with little kid stuff. once i got older and in highschool my grades really dropped and my parents thought that i was a screwup and that i just didnt care, but i did. i tried it just wasnt turning out for me. so then i actually did some research and showed it to my mom and she set up an appointment and i was diagnosed. i do much better now.

and to people who dont believe it exists, it does so shut the fuck up. its not just being lazy.
 
Is skiing full of PPL with ADD and ADHD or am I the only one that has noticed this trend?
Although I do not have either
 
Yes. People with ADHD have an adrenaline deficiency. Which means that people with ADHD are less likely to feel scared at the top of a huge jump or an kinky urban rail. ADHD tends to be rampant in the upper levels of any 'extreme' sport.
 
I am in my 4th year of being a psychology major, I have taken more than one class on clinical psychology and diagnosing different mental disorders.

anyone that does not believe that a mental disorder exists just because they don't have first hand knowledge of it are just plain stupid.

how ignorant does someone have to be to say that something doesn't exist when some people have to deal with it everyday of their lives.
 
thank you. someone who understands. pills help me, thats it. not abusing pills to do a long paper, taking them normally.

But i think no one should get ADD pills if they are

1. Fat

2. Not in Highschool

3. In highschool

ok, so lots of girls (ones i know too) get test for add so they can lose weight... and thats very true

now, i dont think that your little guy in 2nd grade whos imaginative or your eighth grader who isnt mature yet should have these pills. When they get to highschool, when shit matter, and they show the signs of needing pills, then they can get them

now, at the same time, lots of kids in highschool get them so they can cram and finish work and all that crap. so you need to be careful of kids who are bsing to get their fix. thats wht 2 and 3 overlap.
 
Back in HS i used to tutor one of my friends who had ADHD. it was the hardest thing to do. the longest I would be able to get him to concentrate on one topic or concept was 2 minutes tops, when he didn't take his medication. with the medication he was able to concentrate for 15 minutes before he would start doing or talking about something off topic.

Needless to say an hours worth of work would take us 2 hours to get through
 
i used to tutor a girl who had the same problem, but she didn't have ADHD or ADD. i can imagine how much worse it must have been with someone who actually had ADHD.
 
yup. some kids legitimately have problems with ADHD, but that is such a true statement^. theres a huge gray area though as to who is legitimately affected.
 
i just finished my last essay for the semester. YAY!

two finals tomorrow then ill be done!

bike riding season is upon us!
 
really the only thing mentioned in this thread is school, but ADD effects us in a lot of different situations other than just school.
driving is a really big one and also a lot of times it can screw with us in a social aspect
 
I dont have time to read this whole thread. But coming from a med student.... um... ADHD is definitely real. But there is a huge problem in the US with the over diagnosis of a lot of neuro/psych disorders. Especially with cases like ADHD and Major Depressive Disorder. There is a huge difference between behavioral immaturity and "normal sadness" and actual physiological pathologies. One of the biggest problems we face is direct to consumer advertising, withe the famous "...ask your doctor about..." and websites like webMD which the general population uses for self diagnosis rather than educational purposes.
 
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