A6000 vs T5i

MartianMan

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Whats up guys,

I'm going to school in Vermont next year, so I am looking to get into photography and videography, both for the outdoors and ski filming. I don't know much about cameras, so I was looking for some advice.

My cousin shoots with a Canon T3i, and he's pretty skilled in photo and video. He recommended I look at the T5i, which seems easy to use, and has a lot of great features. I'm sure many of you use this camera, and I would love to hear your feedback.

The other camera that caught my eye was the Sony a6000, which spec-wise seemed like a step up from the Canon, especially for the same price point (more megapixels, shoots 1080p60 instead of 1080p30, better fps burst, Wifi). I also like how slim and sleek it is, for packing in my bag. However, I know this isn't classified as a DSLR, so what are the consequences of that? Has anyone used this camera and has feedback?

Thanks so much!
 
topic:MartianMan said:
However, I know this isn't classified as a DSLR, so what are the consequences of that? Has anyone used this camera and has feedback?

Thanks so much!

consequence.. hmm less wrist fatigue, better specs, better codecs, just a great camera. Although the lens selection isnt as great. The joy of mirrorless is you can use just about any manual lens on it with a cheap adapter.

Get the a6000 and dont look back. You will have to get an external recorder for clean audio or buy the sony hotshoe mic havent used that though. The t5i is the exact same camera as the t2i t3i and 7d they just have different body and button layouts. They all use the same sensor. As for image and video first day using the a6k I was blown away by it, literally was having to degrade my footageto match a scene or two for a short film that I used my t3i on. I only ever use my canon with a prime on it as a second camera to get a shot really quick without switching lens on the sony. But even then I prefer the a6k over dslr. The only slight annoyance I have with it is that when you burst fire it locks up the camera for a few seconds while writing the raws to the card. Got better with a faster card. Just keep that in mind if you burst 14+ shots you got about 3 seconds of the menu and functions locking up. Battery life people say sucks but I can film almost whole day skiing with 1 battery. Same with photos but I got extras just in case.
 
13696823:Hoodliving said:
consequence.. hmm less wrist fatigue, better specs, better codecs, just a great camera. Although the lens selection isnt as great. The joy of mirrorless is you can use just about any manual lens on it with a cheap adapter.

Get the a6000 and dont look back. You will have to get an external recorder for clean audio or buy the sony hotshoe mic havent used that though. The t5i is the exact same camera as the t2i t3i and 7d they just have different body and button layouts. They all use the same sensor. As for image and video first day using the a6k I was blown away by it, literally was having to degrade my footageto match a scene or two for a short film that I used my t3i on. I only ever use my canon with a prime on it as a second camera to get a shot really quick without switching lens on the sony. But even then I prefer the a6k over dslr. The only slight annoyance I have with it is that when you burst fire it locks up the camera for a few seconds while writing the raws to the card. Got better with a faster card. Just keep that in mind if you burst 14+ shots you got about 3 seconds of the menu and functions locking up. Battery life people say sucks but I can film almost whole day skiing with 1 battery. Same with photos but I got extras just in case.

I'm in the same situation as op. Thanks for the help!
 
13696823:Hoodliving said:
consequence.. hmm less wrist fatigue, better specs, better codecs, just a great camera. Although the lens selection isnt as great. The joy of mirrorless is you can use just about any manual lens on it with a cheap adapter.

Get the a6000 and dont look back. You will have to get an external recorder for clean audio or buy the sony hotshoe mic havent used that though. The t5i is the exact same camera as the t2i t3i and 7d they just have different body and button layouts. They all use the same sensor. As for image and video first day using the a6k I was blown away by it, literally was having to degrade my footageto match a scene or two for a short film that I used my t3i on. I only ever use my canon with a prime on it as a second camera to get a shot really quick without switching lens on the sony. But even then I prefer the a6k over dslr. The only slight annoyance I have with it is that when you burst fire it locks up the camera for a few seconds while writing the raws to the card. Got better with a faster card. Just keep that in mind if you burst 14+ shots you got about 3 seconds of the menu and functions locking up. Battery life people say sucks but I can film almost whole day skiing with 1 battery. Same with photos but I got extras just in case.

Sweet, thx man. Starting to lean towards the a6000.
 
The a6000 is a really impressive camera, leagues better than a t3i. I've seen photos from it next to shots from an a7rii and I had trouble telling the difference. The price got knocked down when the a6300 came out, and it's 100% worth the cost rn. Like the first poster said, lens selection is the biggest concern, but if you get a few AF lenses you can fill out your collection with vintage when you learn how to manual focus well enough. It's good practice anyway.

The rebel series is no longer competitive for any serious photographers or videographers, and sony is really hot right now.
 
13697230:Forcillo said:
The a6000 is a really impressive camera, leagues better than a t3i. I've seen photos from it next to shots from an a7rii and I had trouble telling the difference. The price got knocked down when the a6300 came out, and it's 100% worth the cost rn. Like the first poster said, lens selection is the biggest concern, but if you get a few AF lenses you can fill out your collection with vintage when you learn how to manual focus well enough. It's good practice anyway.

The rebel series is no longer competitive for any serious photographers or videographers, and sony is really hot right now.

That tokina got me by using my t3i quality wise for my last projects but was blown away by the a6k. I agree with photo comparisons its stellar. Theres a video showing direct comparison betwee 5d mark3 and the a6k on raw files the sony looked better in dynamic range and sharpness, I said no fucking way went and borrowed a friends 5d mark 3 and tried it.... well canon hate to tell you but your sensors suck ass. If a sub 1k camera is up to par with your 3k topo the line camera you might wanna hire new developers
 
I've got the a6000 and love it. The battery life isn't amazing. 300 shots and it's dead. Has anyone looked at the battery grips or just spare batteries? The grips are not sony, as are a lot of the spare batteries and chargers and I don't know if they are trust worthy.

I also run manual lenses on it and have issues finding the focus on the viewfinder as it isn't the sharpest, but that could be my technique.
 
13698866:hemlockjibber8 said:
I've got the a6000 and love it. The battery life isn't amazing. 300 shots and it's dead. Has anyone looked at the battery grips or just spare batteries? The grips are not sony, as are a lot of the spare batteries and chargers and I don't know if they are trust worthy.

I also run manual lenses on it and have issues finding the focus on the viewfinder as it isn't the sharpest, but that could be my technique.

Hey man, make sure to turn off all your settings that you aren't using, put the camera in airplane mode, either use the LCD or evf only you can turn off the auto switching function. (which also drains the battery when its turned off the IR Sensor continues to hunt for light, just pull your battery out at end of day. I have no problem getting 300 shots and a handful of couple minutes of film without it dying. I spent 30 bucks got the wasabi power batteries and just carry one In my pocket haven't had to switch batteries in a full day of filming on hill either.

As for your focus on a manual lens, in your menu find the focus peaking option, turn it to the red setting, as you spin your focus ring it highlights the edges of whatever is in focus with red. After a little practice you can almost snap your focus quickly. The focus peaking is amazing for night photos as well! On a moonless night the stars turn red when you are focused on them properly which is awesome considering most lenses dont have true infinity stops
 
13698906:Hoodliving said:
Hey man, make sure to turn off all your settings that you aren't using, put the camera in airplane mode, either use the LCD or evf only you can turn off the auto switching function. (which also drains the battery when its turned off the IR Sensor continues to hunt for light, just pull your battery out at end of day. I have no problem getting 300 shots and a handful of couple minutes of film without it dying. I spent 30 bucks got the wasabi power batteries and just carry one In my pocket haven't had to switch batteries in a full day of filming on hill either.

As for your focus on a manual lens, in your menu find the focus peaking option, turn it to the red setting, as you spin your focus ring it highlights the edges of whatever is in focus with red. After a little practice you can almost snap your focus quickly. The focus peaking is amazing for night photos as well! On a moonless night the stars turn red when you are focused on them properly which is awesome considering most lenses dont have true infinity stops

Holy fuck. I love you so much. I thought the only trick was to stop down so it was brighter, focus, then readjust your exposure.
 
topic:MartianMan said:
Whats up guys,

I'm going to school in Vermont next year, so I am looking to get into photography and videography, both for the outdoors and ski filming. I don't know much about cameras, so I was looking for some advice.

My cousin shoots with a Canon T3i, and he's pretty skilled in photo and video. He recommended I look at the T5i, which seems easy to use, and has a lot of great features. I'm sure many of you use this camera, and I would love to hear your feedback.

The other camera that caught my eye was the Sony a6000, which spec-wise seemed like a step up from the Canon, especially for the same price point (more megapixels, shoots 1080p60 instead of 1080p30, better fps burst, Wifi). I also like how slim and sleek it is, for packing in my bag. However, I know this isn't classified as a DSLR, so what are the consequences of that? Has anyone used this camera and has feedback?

Thanks so much!

Are you going to be doing more stills or video. I work at a camera shop and one thing we sell the crap out of is the Panasonic g7. There are some plusses to this over the Sony in that it uses micro four thirds lenses. All m4/3 lenses are interchangeable between brands so you have a wide selection of lenses to choose from. Second m4/3 lenses generally use smaller pieces of glass in their construction and are generally cheaper. As far as video is concerned too, unless you are paying over $2000 there isn't really a dslr that can hold a candle to mirror less cameras video capabilities. The G7 itself is 16mp has full manual control and can take 4K video at 30 or 24p which is superior to the A6000. Sony also has shit for lens selection. The g7 kit with the 14-42 lens goes from r around $597 but if you buy from adorama you get a $100 gift card. Let us know more about your needs and we may be able to help further
 
13698942:hemlockjibber8 said:
Holy fuck. I love you so much. I thought the only trick was to stop down so it was brighter, focus, then readjust your exposure.

no sir! And here's another trick for you as well, if you are in a dim situation and can't get your auto focus to lock on, pop your flash up and the cam simulates what it thinks the exposure will be on your screen and walla you can lock focus then close it and shoot.

13699075:CabbyArrant said:
Are you going to be doing more stills or video. I work at a camera shop and one thing we sell the crap out of is the Panasonic g7. There are some plusses to this over the Sony in that it uses micro four thirds lenses. All m4/3 lenses are interchangeable between brands so you have a wide selection of lenses to choose from. Second m4/3 lenses generally use smaller pieces of glass in their construction and are generally cheaper. As far as video is concerned too, unless you are paying over $2000 there isn't really a dslr that can hold a candle to mirror less cameras video capabilities. The G7 itself is 16mp has full manual control and can take 4K video at 30 or 24p which is superior to the A6000. Sony also has shit for lens selection. The g7 kit with the 14-42 lens goes from r around $597 but if you buy from adorama you get a $100 gift card. Let us know more about your needs and we may be able to help further

a6k is 24.3mp has 60mbps avchd 1080 60 1080 24 as for video 4k is a dying concept, no one has 4k tvs and its already being replaced with 6k and 8k sensors. Also if you aren't working on paid projects there isn't really a need for a 4k workflow that will be compressed to 1080 for streaming anyhow. Then you have to go about figuring out different bitrates and compression factors so you dont get nasty artifacts even with the 4k. The 1080/24 is absolutely beautiful on the a6k if you get an Nd filter to maintain a 50 - 120 shutter. It is also mirrorless and with my lens I only paid 600 for my kit. I agree any dslr can't hold a salt against these mirrorless cams. Also m4/3 is a nice format to use for lens selection although the Sony line is growing there is lots of off brands to use and as hemlock stated he shoots alot of manual. He can spend between 30-120 bucks and be able to use Fd glass, legacy canon, Nikorr, Nikon m4/3 lens as well. The adapters are spendy if you want the auto focus functions but for a true manual lens you can get the adapters cheap. For anyone reading this Do NOT get a metabones adapter, the commlite one for 120 vs the metas 400-500 is the exact same thing except it gives internal flare which was fixed by getting anti glare flocking tape from a craft store cut to shape and slapped it in the adapter. I won't knock Panasonics for video but I wouldn't ever want to trust em for photos.
 
13699082:Hoodliving said:
no sir! And here's another trick for you as well, if you are in a dim situation and can't get your auto focus to lock on, pop your flash up and the cam simulates what it thinks the exposure will be on your screen and walla you can lock focus then close it and shoot.

a6k is 24.3mp has 60mbps avchd 1080 60 1080 24 as for video 4k is a dying concept, no one has 4k tvs and its already being replaced with 6k and 8k sensors. Also if you aren't working on paid projects there isn't really a need for a 4k workflow that will be compressed to 1080 for streaming anyhow. Then you have to go about figuring out different bitrates and compression factors so you dont get nasty artifacts even with the 4k. The 1080/24 is absolutely beautiful on the a6k if you get an Nd filter to maintain a 50 - 120 shutter. It is also mirrorless and with my lens I only paid 600 for my kit. I agree any dslr can't hold a salt against these mirrorless cams. Also m4/3 is a nice format to use for lens selection although the Sony line is growing there is lots of off brands to use and as hemlock stated he shoots alot of manual. He can spend between 30-120 bucks and be able to use Fd glass, legacy canon, Nikorr, Nikon m4/3 lens as well. The adapters are spendy if you want the auto focus functions but for a true manual lens you can get the adapters cheap. For anyone reading this Do NOT get a metabones adapter, the commlite one for 120 vs the metas 400-500 is the exact same thing except it gives internal flare which was fixed by getting anti glare flocking tape from a craft store cut to shape and slapped it in the adapter. I won't knock Panasonics for video but I wouldn't ever want to trust em for photos.

You are incorrect in saying that you can adapt m4/3 lenses to the a6k. The a6k is an aps-c sized sensor
 
13699184:Hoodliving said:
http://m43photo.blogspot.com/2013/06/using-micro-four-thirds-lenses-on-sony.html?m=1

Ill just search google for 2 seconds.

Here you go.

I have no idea why anyone would want to do this but I concede you can stick m4/3 lenses on it
 
13699269:CabbyArrant said:
I have no idea why anyone would want to do this but I concede you can stick m4/3 lenses on it

After I had read more into it, it's cool but yah can't see the need really haha
 
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