9/11 an inside job?

i didint say it was a fucking missle! i dont fucking believe an amateur pilot could manuever a plane like so im a fucking idiot, go fuck yourself. i didint say it was a missle and i dont support loose change fuck off
 
i do know what im talking about you just dont think what im saying is correct. there is a big difference. israel infulences america more then you know.
 
conspiracy theorists are such idiots. i've already repeated my opinions in way too many of these threads, so i will refer anyone who opposes me to the search bar.

and i do like this video.
 
Alright but you said you supported the fact that both towers and the other building were brought down with explosives right? Then how come when I told you why the other WTC building collapsed, you didn't even try to refute it? Oh that's right, because it was the truth. The truth is that there were no explosives used, it was not a controlled demolition, it was simply structural failure.
 
Whoever piloted the pentagon plane had to have been somebody who knew was he was doing, or else it would not have been so aimable because when planes drop altitude quickly, they stall out and are unable to maintain flight anymore. Also, don't you find it odd that there were only 14 fighter planes to defend the ENTIRE United States when 9/11 happened? I'm not saying the government did it, but I DO think it should be investigated more.
 
Again you changed the subject without answering my question. I know damn well how much Israel influences the US and I know the history of how it happened. I have read quite a few books on the six day war and modern international relations. Thank you very much, you're wrong.
 
It's been investigated more than you could ever imagine. Why do you think some evidence is still being withheld? There have been many official reports written about what happened and changes have been made according to those reports. Is it so hard to believe that someone sneaked box cutters on board an airplane and hijacked it? Shit I was reading an article in a ski magazine about a guy who wanted to make rocket skis and taped bags of rocket fuel on himself to get through the airport. As for the Pentagon and the people who flew it, do you even know how the plane descended? Do you even know how quick it did or at what angle? No you do not so how can you say anything relating to that. Going on that, do you know how many hours they put into flying school? Do you know the differences and similarities between a small engine and a full on passenger airliner? You, or none of these paranoid/fight the power douche bags making these claims can judge about what happened and what should have happened. Before you jump to ridiculous conclusions, be a good little investigator/citizen and pick up solid facts. That means personal accounts, flight patterns and all that good shit. It's all out there for you to find out. But hey it is a lot easier to sit at your computer and type in, "911 conspiracies" on youtube and take that as the undeniable facts. You say for us not to swallow everything the government feeds us and yet you are doing the same, just with some amateur film makers and modern aged hippies with no ambition in life. Have fun with that but heed your own warnings... bitches.
 
Why is it that the same four people on NS try to tell people how it is about 9/11, all of you are all 20+ year old skiers who might be going to college, why are you suddenly the expert? Seriously, shut the fuck up, its america, we have the freedom to think whatever we want about who did what, so fuck you.

And my opinion, the government has ALOT of explaining to do. The FACT that they are holding back so many secrets is a huge red flag for me.

So if there are conspirist theorists, what does that make you guys? The most intelligent truth tellers to ever grace the planet? Get a fucking life....
 
It's because they are a fucking disgrace to the people who have died. If anyone saying this shit had someone in 9-11, they would not be saying this and would have a tiny bit of decency. That's why I give a fuck. America gives you the right to have your own opinion, not to be a jackass.
 
so this is a funny story. me and my buddy are driving through VT back up to school. we're inbetween two exits that are 20 miles apart, right in the middle, where there is nothing we see this barefoot hippy. he's holding up a sign that says "9/11 was an inside job". priceless

 
First off, I never said I took in what the government was feeding me. And yes, it is hard to believe that terrorists could take over a plane with box cutters, and then proceed to pilot it. Regardless of your distaste for the "Loose Change" movies, they DID do their research as you are telling us to do. Maybe some of their stuff is speculation, but another, larger portion of it is written evidence, or things pointing towards a pre-knowledge of the attacks. You say it's a disgrace to the people who died's memory, yet it would be more of a disgrace to have LET them die by a preventable incident. Honestly, I have no idea why you are getting so steamed over the subject when you could just as easily debate it in an even tone.
 
Dude you cannot even comprehend what I'm saying. And let me ask you, how many planes have been hijacked in the past? If you were on that plane, you would not fuck with those guys especially after if they stabbed someone. You'd sit back and wait for them to land the plane because you would think it was just a hijacking. They could fly the planes because they took flying lessons. Even if it's not for that same model plane, all are basically the same if you are just going to keep it up in the air. I'm telling you right now that those guys who made those videos did not do their research. They actually got pretty badly owned by the Popular Mechanics guys on a show. They were disproved and shit was explained left and right and it got to the point where the Loose Change guys would just say to them, "No your wrong." Or laugh at them with no rebuttal at all. They acted like five year olds. It was pathetic. It's common knowledge now that the government did know of these attacks, but they didn't know where or when. All they knew is that it involved hijacking airplanes. To even fathom these attacks wasn't even capable back then.
 
Well, I've run out of steam for rebuttal, so I'll move onto a happier(ish) subject. What do you guys think they should put in the ground zero site? A park? A new WTC? An apartment complex? A memorial? Let's hear it.
 
the way that i see it, from a non-americans point of view...

i dont know if it was a scam... the pentagon thing is pretty dodgy though... WERE DID THE PLANE GO????????

but most importantly, and slightly irrelevantly, George Bush is a fucker

its the beer
 
there's a lot of freaky stuff surrounding this. now im not saying i know what happened, but....

-The Pentagon could not have been hit with a plane. the hole in the building was smaller than the wingspan of the plane that supposedly hit it. and the smoke of plane fuel burns a different color then the smoke of explosives, and the at the pentagon the smoke was the color of explosives.

-Plane fuel doesn't burn at hot enough temperatures to melt the type of steel used in the building, and if it did the steel would have started to bend because it would get softer, and the building just fell straight down. so that doesnt add up either. i think there had to be explosives placed in the towers, but i can't say that its true.
 
something is missing from all of these theories, a valid motive for our government to do this. somebody who believes these conspiracy theories, please explain this to me, I am curious. Thats what I thought.
 


http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/video_loose_change_final_teaser.htm

New Loose change video coming soon. Apparently, these college kids sitting in their dorm room have done alot more than you ever have Skiierman. They are not 'kids' either you idiot and they arent in it for the money, but apparently their videos are popular enough that they keep making more, which means lots of people are watching them. They are actually pretty damn well made in my opinion...

http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/de9de.html

And there is a book that basically debunks everything popular mechanics has said, so stfu. Do you really think someone would write a book about something unless they werent extrememly motivated about the subject? Apparently the government isnt motivated enough to tell us the facts...

 
Plus, IT'S THE FREAKING PENTAGON! Now why would the place where all the military decisions for the U.S. eventually come down to have NO protection against a commericial jet!? Even if it was a plane, where were the jets?! WA D.C. is restricted airspace, so a plane flying anywhere off course in that area shoulda been a red flag. I just wish i knew the truth... :(
 
So because somebody writes a book about it it makes it true? My god I honestly didn't think people could be so dumb. Sometimes people are motivated by popularity. This issue can get popularity very easily. I wouldn't be surprised if most of their arguments were made up, because it's very easy to create a theory rather than to prove one.
 
My god, apparently Hitler was pretty motivated about the removal of the Jews when he wrote Mein Kampf. What an insightful and revolutionary idea, writing a book because you have an idea.
 
Did I ever say it was all true? No. Have I read the book? No, not yet. Until you fools read it, your words dont mean shit either. So because Popular Mechanics had a magazine article that means they are right ? (keyword: Popular! It must be true!)

 
No. It was not an inside job. Americans did not set it up or any of that. Now, ignoring threats is a different story...
 
Have you ever written a book? Yea i didnt think so, its alot harder than you would think, you have to have sources for your info idiot..... I doubt a book publisher would just publish a book that they have no faith in whatsoever either....
 
Do you really think that this guy is going to write a book about 9/11 conspiricy theories without any sources or any studying or experimenting whatsoever? Nope, im pretty sure hes not that stupid....
 
No, but I have a paper published about Transcutaneous Acoustic Palpation on a complete freunds adjuvant model in rats. Would that count?

Also, what sources do I need to cite? Hitler wrote a book... it was called Mein Kampf? You're the one who's inferring all of this shit about authors. However, in this day and age, you can get a book published no matter how extreme your ideas are. The KKK have books out, and I'm sure the Westboro Baptists will write one eventually. You can be bat shit insane and write something, and I'll bet there'll be a wacked out english teacher somewhere that will pour over it and decipher the text. Just because its in print doesnt mean its right, as you yourself would have to agree after bringing up the Popular Mechanics issue.
 
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