got the 180s in march, been skiiing them all over since. the noses are softer than the jjs and the tails are stiffer. they do really well all around if you are used to skiing a rockered reverse sidecut ski. very fun, its a really good ski if you ride a place where there is pow but it gets tracked out fast. and if you ride all over the mtn its a good one ski quiver. basically a more symmetrical jj that is better for riding switch and jibbing. i am selling mine soon if you are interested in buying a pair.