100mm twin tip charger, and is anyone on the blade optic 104?

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Voyage86

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if you know of a twin tip ski around 100 underfoot that’s around 2000g and can charge while being mounted around -2.5 please lmk. also curious what anyone has to say about the blade optic 104 and if you actually feel the weight on it, or because the metal is mostly underfoot it feels pretty normal. also wondering if you can mount it around -2.5 and still rip all mountain. thanks.
 
topic:Voyage86 said:
if you know of a twin tip ski around 100 underfoot that’s around 2000g and can charge while being mounted around -2.5 please lmk. also curious what anyone has to say about the blade optic 104 and if you actually feel the weight on it, or because the metal is mostly underfoot it feels pretty normal. also wondering if you can mount it around -2.5 and still rip all mountain. thanks.
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I've skied the Optic 104 a bunch. It's definitely chargy. You can feel the metal in both good and bad ways. It's damp and pretty stable, but I found it super edgy with Line's factory tune (all Line skis come out of the box feeling super edgy, fine on the softer skis but feels gnarly on these). It's not a super heavy feeling ski by any means though, I found them fine in the air. I mounted at around -4 and they definitely still skied great there. I know some of the team ski them further forward. Don't expect a loose/surfy ski though, because they aren't that. The Blade Optic 96 is actually a more intuitive feeling ski IMO though.

Other options might be: the new Salmon Depart if you can get a pair (depends on size too), Unleashed 98 (just don't ski rails), MFree 99, maybe Jeffrey 102/Wildcat 101 (haven't skied those)
 
topic:Voyage86 said:
if you know of a twin tip ski around 100 underfoot that’s around 2000g and can charge while being mounted around -2.5 please lmk. also curious what anyone has to say about the blade optic 104 and if you actually feel the weight on it, or because the metal is mostly underfoot it feels pretty normal. also wondering if you can mount it around -2.5 and still rip all mountain. thanks.
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on3p woodsman or jeffrey
 
14593979:Twig said:
I've skied the Optic 104 a bunch. It's definitely chargy. You can feel the metal in both good and bad ways. It's damp and pretty stable, but I found it super edgy with Line's factory tune (all Line skis come out of the box feeling super edgy, fine on the softer skis but feels gnarly on these). It's not a super heavy feeling ski by any means though, I found them fine in the air. I mounted at around -4 and they definitely still skied great there. I know some of the team ski them further forward. Don't expect a loose/surfy ski though, because they aren't that. The Blade Optic 96 is actually a more intuitive feeling ski IMO though.

Other options might be: the new Salmon Depart if you can get a pair (depends on size too), Unleashed 98 (just don't ski rails), MFree 99, maybe Jeffrey 102/Wildcat 101 (haven't skied those)
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ok cool, thank you twig
 
I would not recommend the Wildcat 101 as mentioned above. Especially if you’re trying to move the mount forward. The 101 is already the least chargy of the Wildcat bunch and moving the mount forward would take away the last bit of charge it has.
 
14594043:PartyBullshiit said:
I would not recommend the Wildcat 101 as mentioned above. Especially if you’re trying to move the mount forward. The 101 is already the least chargy of the Wildcat bunch and moving the mount forward would take away the last bit of charge it has.
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ok thank you, i was strongly looking into that ski and was waiting for you to chime in.
 
14594048:Voyage86 said:
ok thank you, i was strongly looking into that ski and was waiting for you to chime in.
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You can absolutely move the mount forward on the 101 and it would be a lot of fun. Super pivoty, balance would be great in the park but ya you’d loose a lot of the all mountain performance of the ski and would for sure end the charge ability at that point.

its a -5 mount. If bumped it to -4 you’d still have some charge
 
14593979:Twig said:
I've skied the Optic 104 a bunch. It's definitely chargy. You can feel the metal in both good and bad ways. It's damp and pretty stable, but I found it super edgy with Line's factory tune (all Line skis come out of the box feeling super edgy, fine on the softer skis but feels gnarly on these). It's not a super heavy feeling ski by any means though, I found them fine in the air. I mounted at around -4 and they definitely still skied great there. I know some of the team ski them further forward. Don't expect a loose/surfy ski though, because they aren't that. The Blade Optic 96 is actually a more intuitive feeling ski IMO though.

Other options might be: the new Salmon Depart if you can get a pair (depends on size too), Unleashed 98 (just don't ski rails), MFree 99, maybe Jeffrey 102/Wildcat 101 (haven't skied those)
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Unleashed 98 is a directional ski with a twin tail. Found the durability on that series to be dog poo. More of a grip it and rip it ski than a slarver. I found it fun for a while but carving got boring. As far as charge go they have plenty of beans. @Voyage86 where you ski at?
 
14594056:BallClapper said:
Unleashed 98 is a directional ski with a twin tail. Found the durability on that series to be dog poo. More of a grip it and rip it ski than a slarver. I found it fun for a while but carving got boring. As far as charge go they have plenty of beans. @Voyage86 where you ski at?
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i’m shipping out to boulder next year so need this thing for the icon places in the rockies, primarily A bay and copper i’d imagine
 
14594073:Voyage86 said:
i’m shipping out to boulder next year so need this thing for the icon places in the rockies, primarily A bay and copper i’d imagine
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Are you decided on ~100mm underfoot or would you try a little wider? IMO a 105-110 underfoot ski that kinda rides the freeride/freestyle line out west is an absolute thing of beauty
 
14594119:IsaacNW82 said:
Are you decided on ~100mm underfoot or would you try a little wider? IMO a 105-110 underfoot ski that kinda rides the freeride/freestyle line out west is an absolute thing of beauty
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i already have a 112 free ride pow ski and i’m pretty sure i want something noticeably skinnier to contrast it, so at least 7-8 mm skinnier but i am open to your recommendations, let’s hear em.
 
14594126:Voyage86 said:
i already have a 112 free ride pow ski and i’m pretty sure i want something noticeably skinnier to contrast it, so at least 7-8 mm skinnier but i am open to your recommendations, let’s hear em.
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Ahhhhh that makes a lot of sense, should be a fun duo to cover most conditions.

FWIW the M-Free 108 is kinda what I had in mind, but I think that would overlap a 112 pow ski too much
 
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