10/19/2016 Debate
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yungcigsmoker
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H O N E S T A B E
.MASSHOLE.
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13737685:JGWI said:
This.
But Jesus H. Fuck, Iran invading Iraq? They would bring the hellfire of every Sunni country down on them. That involves Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, etc.
That is blasphemy. 100%.
yungcigsmoker
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Wikileaks is supposed to drop some dank emails on November 1st
BrawnTrends
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13737734:Josh__Peck said:
I highly doubt it will change anything.
yungcigsmoker
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13737844:BrawnTrends said:
An employee from WikiLeaks said they're supposed to drop some heavy shit. Like people get tried for war crimes kinda shit. Supposedly the 30k deleted emails as well
BrawnTrends
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But why tell everyone to wait until Nov 1? If they were really looking for the truth they would just drop it as soon as they have it. This sounds more like click bait type of bullshit propaganda than true whistle blower's work.
Snowden didn't "warn" the world that if was gonna drop some heavy shit. He just did it.
Snowden didn't "warn" the world that if was gonna drop some heavy shit. He just did it.
yungcigsmoker
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13737849:BrawnTrends said:
They're dropping it November 1st so the DNC doesn't have time to replace Clinton
BrawnTrends
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Hahaha ok, such exceptional integrity and impartiality... What should it matter if the DNC replaces Clinton or not? I mean, if it wasn't clearly an attempt to have Trump to win, of course.
powderdrunkie
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Hillary danced around the wikileaks question by diverting it to women's rights....
yungcigsmoker
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13737854:BrawnTrends said:
Its not an attempt to have Trump win. It's to ensure that Hillary loses.
CaptainObvious.
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13737862:powderdrunkie said:
And Trump flat out made a mockery of women.
These candidates and this election is disgusting.
coolflash8
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13737843:JAHpow said:
amen. Also hill dog killed it, trump sounded like a 40 year old crackhead who smokes no27s on the daily.
BrawnTrends
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13737894:Josh__Peck said:
Which, in the end result, is exactly the same. Assange just has a personal grudge against Hillary. It's pretty pathetic.
coolflash8
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13737862:powderdrunkie said:
no.... did we watch the same debate? she called out that it is russian hackers trying to influence the election.
powderdrunkie
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13737962:coolflash8 said:
I believe that was her response to the emails. Also, you can't hack something that doesn't already exist. Regardless of who hacked it is irrelevant. Poor America. Poor us.
powderdrunkie
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13737962:coolflash8 said:
I believe that was her response to the emails. Also, you can't hack something that doesn't already exist. Regardless of who hacked it is irrelevant. Poor America. Poor us.
yungcigsmoker
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13737950:BrawnTrends said:
Yeah dude it's so pathetic to expose corrupt politicians committing scandalous crimes bigger than watergate. Get your head out of your ass. You dumb fucking progressives get so pissed off at "The Russians" (who by the way have no part in the hackings), or you get pissed at Assange and cry "Wahhhh he stole the DNC's info". It amazes me that you're pissed at Assange for hacking and not at the DNC/Hillary for undermining democracy and committing felonies. You're the pathetic one you dumb motherfucker.
.MASSHOLE.
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13737966:powderdrunkie said:
No, it does matter who hacked it. It matters a hell of a whole lot, especially if it was a foreign group. No foreign group should ever attempt to influence our elections. Period. We obviously have a history of doing this, but two wrongs do not make a right.
powderdrunkie
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13738015:.MASSHOLE. said:
K. well it was the NSA that hacked it sooo.....
"the truth is out there"
.MASSHOLE.
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13738017:powderdrunkie said:
Right. Every other source has said it was Russian leanings, and some random NS poster says it's the NSA.
Not only is this meddling in our elections, but it has the potential to create a false narrative because of the fact that we don't know if these are all the emails nor will anyone confirm that to us.
If you're trolling, my meter is broken because there are too many idiots out there this political season.
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13737985:Josh__Peck said:
So what "crimes bigger than watergate" are you talking about? Or do you also believe everything you read and hear from your own favorite sources? The Podesta emails that were released say nothing about any criminal activity, they only really back up the fact that she took mucho dinero from Goldman-Sachs just before running. Or are you talking about the criminally delicious creamy risotto recipe?
BrawnTrends
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13738024:TheHamburglar said:
Man, that recipe was just, like, so shocking. I don't think our lives will ever be the same... Fucking liberals and their delicious risottos!!!!
arnie_grape
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13737843:JAHpow said:
lol have a jelly belly
coolflash8
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13738141:S.J.W said:
at least we CAN buy guns unlike Australia
coolflash8
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13738170:S.J.W said:
Yeah i bet he owns some sick 10 round hunting rifles, and double barrel shotguns
arnie_grape
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13738146:coolflash8 said:
"we" as in literally anyone
you probably even rent to foreigners
you know, as long as they're white
Frozinballz
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13738211:GORILLAWALLACE said:
No, as long as their American.
Big difference. Fucking liberals spin it and get offensive and butthurt, its ridiculous. It's called having a country. The biggest racial issue we have right now is the one people make up, like what you are doing right now. Black lives matter for example has created a bigger divide than helping anything. So much violence. Go watch Lil Waynes most recent interview. People are wild
OregonDead
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Watched back to back episodes of Steven Raichlen's Project Smoke last night. Makes my mouth water just thinking about it. The networks should get together and play that goodness on every channel simultaneously.
Gods_Father
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13738239:S.J.W said:
Hahaha you ignorant shit.
yungcigsmoker
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13738239:S.J.W said:
I find it hilarious that liberals/progressives/democrats are literally the only political ideology in favor of gun control. Even facists and marxists are opposed to it.
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13738250:Josh__Peck said:
might find it interesting that in Australia it was actually the right wing major political party who introduced a bill to ban/buy back guns in the late 90's after the Port Arthur massacre. So how's that "literally only political ideology". John Howard, one of the most right wing prime minister's Australia has ever had.
yungcigsmoker
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13738254:S.J.W said:
Liberalism is a right wing ideology dumbfuck.
coolflash8
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13738239:S.J.W said:
if you dont like guns you are a pussy
S.J.W
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13738255:Josh__Peck said:
Well that couldn't be further from the truth. The origins of liberalism, like freedom of speech, religion, equality before the law can be dated back to 17th century and to the birth of the Commonwealth. Now what you're doing is confusing social liberalism with economic liberalism. Social liberalism advocates for individual freedoms and equality. In that sense it's fairly centrist as one can make a case that left wing is liberal, or that right wing is liberal, depending on which issues you choose to look at. (I.E, abortion, guns, marriage equality).
Economic liberalism, is a much newer concept. Economic liberalism advocates for free trade, and laissez faire style government. And yes, you're right, economic liberalism was indeed a right wing concept in the early 18th century. One only has to look at Lincoln and the republican party of the civil war. But what are you forgetting is that around 1870 the republican party stopped trying to look after the blacks. Fast forward to the civil rights acts around mid 60's, republicans started opposing the civil rights acts on grounds of their traditional laissez faire style of government. And this is when blacks started switching to democrats. Other issues like abortion and school pray also played a role in staunch white democrats switching to the republicans. And this is where you see the current republican party came from.
Enter Donald Trump. Trump is introducing a new style of government, which is directly contradicting both his party's views and economic liberalism. And if you listen to Trump talk, it's very clear that he wants protectionist policy. This is a complete opposite to what economic liberalism is about.
So I'm glad I just schooled your arse on liberalism, to say that liberalism is either right wing or left wing is incredibly incorrect. What you have now is parties, and candidates nit picking what parts of liberalism they wish to use. The way
yungcigsmoker
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13738281:S.J.W said:
Private property and (mostly) free market capitalism are found in the modern liberal idealogy. I don't think we are arguing the same kind of liberalism. Social liberalism has nothing to do with left or right wing principles, and everything to do with statist/anti-statist principles. Economic liberalism (aka classic liberalism) is a right wing ideology.
13738319:broto said:
"I don't have an argument so I'll refer to ad-hominems to look cool on the internet"