1 in 7 Americans living below the poverty line

skiminnesota

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"summer of recovery" my ass Joe Biden (i had to:)

So whats everyones take, will President Obama own up to whats happening on his watch.. or will he continue to blame the Bush administration.

will america get off this Keynesian kick that has, thus far, failed horribly to restart the economy. (second preposterous statement of the day?) (see libertarian thread) lets not forget business, specifically small business, is in a holding pattern because of the tax hikes that will be taking place Jan 1.

so NS how do we solve this? spend more?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gEIog1McfWUU5EI0k39LunUmDO-wD9I96VTG0

 
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mother fucker...

why isnt my link working?

its straight from the AP read with google reader or some fancy shit like that.
 
I'm just going to leave this here...

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I really don't want to get into a political shit storm, but the poverty level is not Obama's fault. It's not even that high. I'm not a fan of how Obama has been doing, and I'm even less of a fan of Congress. In years to come, if the economy is worse than it is now (which it may very well be, time will tell), then we can start to analyze Obama's mistakes and blame him, but you really can't blame him yet.
 
Oh, they changed course all right:

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Took the car out of the ditch and are looking for a 1000foot cliff to try parachuting off of.
 
I agree, I've lost hope in Obama because he didn't change anything. But the OP asked if he was going to own up to what's happening now, and I think that's bull, it's not his responsibility to own up to.
 
How? Take a look at that graph I posted and how much the budget spending has gone up since 2008.

And I can't believe what I heard Pelosi say today:

"We are looking to continue the OBAMA tax cuts for the middle class"

Wait, aren't those the BUSH tax cuts. Dumb broad.
 
And you really think the poverty level has gone up (slightly) because of the increase in spending in just the past year and a half?
 
To say that Obama has nothing to own up to is asinine. You think that Obama spending a shit ton of money that isn't helping the workers who are losing jobs ISN'T making people go below the poverty line?
 
Obama. Hahahaha makes me chuckle every time. Everyday I listen to more and more people saying they regret their vote.
 
So much of the money he's been spending has been pointless, but he has been helping workers. We're dangerously close to arguing about trickle down vs. a more socialized form of government, but I don't have time for that so hopefully if I can restrain my will, I'll avoid posting in here anymore...
 
whats the difference between government spending on a war and government spending on domestic programs?

if spending on the war got the Us out of the great depression than shouldnt the same be true this time around? EG spending on the home front on redonkulas infrastructure programs.
 
your statistic reminded me of this. it is interesting but doesn't merit its own thread

If the world were a village of 1,000 people, it would include:

· 584 Asians

· 124 Africans

· 95 East and West Europeans

· 84 Latin Americans

· 55 Soviets (including for the moment Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians and other national groups)

· 52 North Americans

· 6 Australians and New Zealanders

The people of the village have considerable difficulty in communicating:

· 165 people speak Mandarin

· 86 English

· 83 Hindi/Urdu

· 64 Spanish

· 58 Russian

· 37 Arabic

That list accounts for the mother tongues of only half the villagers. The other half speak (in descending order of frequency) Bengali, Portuguese, Indonesian, Japanese, German, French and 200 other languages.

In this village of 1,000 there are:

· 329 Christians (among them 187 Catholics, 84 Protestants, 31 Orthodox)

· 178 Moslems

· 167 "non-religious"

· l32 Hindus

· 60 Buddhists

· 45 atheists

· 3 Jews

· 86 all other religions

One-third (330) of the 1,000 people in the world village are children and only 60 are over the age of 65. Half the children are immunized against preventable infectious diseases such as measles and polio.

Just under half of the married women in the village have access to and use modern contraceptives.

This year 28 babies will be born. Ten people will die, 3 of them for lack of food, 1 from cancer, 2 of the deaths are of babies born within the year. One person of the 1,000 is infected with the HIV virus; that person most likely has not yet developed a full-blown case of AIDS.

With the 28 births and 10 deaths, the population of the village next year will be 1,018.

In this 1,000-person community, 200 people receive 75 percent of the income; another 200 receive only 2 percent of the income.

Only 70 people of the 1,000 own an automobile (although some of the 70 own more than one automobile).

About one-third have access to clean, safe drinking water.

Of the 670 adults in the village, half are illiterate.

The village has six acres of land per person, 6,000 acres in all, of which

· 700 acres are cropland

· 1,400 acres pasture

· 1,900 acres woodland

· 2,000 acres desert, tundra, pavement and other wasteland

· The woodland is declining rapidly; the wasteland is increasing. The other land categories are roughly stable.

The village allocates 83 percent of its fertilizer to 40 percent of its cropland - that owned by the richest and best-fed 270 people. Excess fertilizer running off this land causes pollution in lakes and wells. The remaining 60 percent of the land, with its 17 percent of the fertilizer, produces 28 percent of the food grains and feeds 73 percent of the people. The average grain yield on that land is one-third the harvest achieved by the richer villagers.

In the village of 1,000 people, there are:

· 5 soldiers

· 7 teachers

· 1 doctor

· 3 refugees driven from home by war or drought

The village has a total budget each year, public and private, of over $3 million - $3,000 per person if it is distributed evenly (which, we have already seen, it isn't).

Of the total $3 million:

· $181,000 goes to weapons and warfare

· $159,000 for education

· $l32,000 for health care

The village has buried beneath it enough explosive power in nuclear weapons to blow itself to smithereens many times over. These weapons are under the control of just 100 of the people. The other 900 people are watching them with deep anxiety, wondering whether they can learn to get along together; and if they do, whether they might set off the weapons anyway through inattention or technical bungling; and, if they ever decide to dismantle the weapons, where in the world village they would dispose of the radioactive materials of which the weapons are made.
 
Even better, we should take Schiff's idea and have a 'pretend war' . Just make everything needed, enforce conscription then fire all the newly made bullets into a ditch somewhere. You get all the economic 'growth' of war, but none of the human casualties.
 
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