'08-'09 season a wash???

NoTeefa

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Well I hate to be "that guy"* but I think its going to be comparable to the season we shall not speak of.

Now bear in mind, I haven't read or heard a single thing about a forecast for this winter. I have no idea whether its a little dick** or a rotten little cunt*** season, or if any of the weather jockies on tv have even taken the time to check during all the hurricane carnage. So its probably just me being cranky paranoid freeskiing washout that smoke too much pot and gets it in his head that he has oracle like powers...

Where am I going with this????....

Fuck

Ya know I'm usually pessimistic, so as to not be disappointed no matter what the outcome, but I'm being extra pessimistic about this season. Maybe we had it too good last season?

maybe not really comparable to the season we shall not speak of, but still not so good this season will be?

Predictions?

another interesting thing to discuss: Will snoqualmie get their shit together and build a decent jump this year? if they have snow?

*that's I lie, It doesn't really bother me

**el nino

***la nina
 
NOAA Still Sees Above Average Temperatures for Most of the U.S. and Below Normal Precipitation Across the South

Agency Issues Final U.S. Winter Outlook for the 2007-08 Season

November 15, 2007



Winter temperature outlook.

+ High Resolution (Credit: NOAA)

In the final forecast update to the U.S. winter outlook, NOAA Climate Prediction Center forecasters remain confident in predicting above average temperatures for much of the country – including southern sections of the Northeast – and below normal precipitation for the southern tier of the nation. Above average precipitation is still anticipated for the Pacific Northwest, and in the Great Lakes and Tennessee Valley.

“La Niña strengthened during October, making it even more likely that the United States will see below-average precipitation in the already drought-stricken regions of the Southwest and the Southeast this winter,” said Michael Halpert, deputy director of the Climate Prediction Center. “Recent sea surface temperatures indicate we have moderate La Niña conditions in place over the equatorial Pacific which we expect to continue into early 2008.”

On average, for December 2007 through February 2008, NOAA seasonal forecasters predict:

[*]Temperatures are expected to be above average in the Mid-Atlantic states and southern sections of the Northeast in response to the long-term warming trend. La Niña favors drier than average conditions along the mid-Atlantic coast. As always, snowfall for the region will depend on other climate factors, which are difficult to anticipate more than one to two weeks in advance.

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[*]The drought-plagued Southeast is likely to remain drier than average due to La Niña, while temperatures are expected to be above average.

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[*]In the Great Lakes and Tennessee Valley, temperatures and precipitation should both be above average.

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[*]The south-central Plains should see drier-than-average conditions and warmer-than-average temperatures. Above-average temperatures are also expected in the central Plains. The northern Plains has equal chances of above-, near-, or below-average temperature and precipitation.

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[*]In the Northwest, there are equal chances for above-, near-, or below-average temperatures. Precipitation should be above average in much of the region due to La Niña.

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[*]Much of California is anticipated be drier than average in response to La Niña, while there are equal chances of above-, near-, or below-average temperatures.

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[*]Drought conditions are expected to persist in the Southwest due to La Niña, and temperatures are likely to be above average.

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[*]Northern Alaska is expect to be milder than average, while the rest of Alaska has equal chances of above-, near-, or below-average temperatures and precipitation.

[*]In Hawaii, precipitation is expected to be above average with above average temperatures in the western Islands. The eastern islands have equal chances of above-, near-, or below-average temperatures

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Winter precipitation outlook.

+ High Resolution (Credit: NOAA)

For the country as a whole, NOAA's heating degree day forecast for December through February projects a 4.0 percent warmer winter than the 30-year normal, which is very similar to last winter.

“Although we are expecting a warmer than normal winter, we do believe there will be fluctuations of warm weather and typical winter weather throughout the season,” said Edward O’Lenic, chief, forecast operations, NOAA Climate Prediction Center. “We encourage people to review winter weather risks for their particular area and information available online to help keep them safe when events do occur.”

The U.S. winter outlook is produced by a team of scientists at the Climate Prediction Center in association with NOAA-funded partners. Scientists base this forecast on long-term climate trends and a variety of forecast tools from statistical techniques to extremely complex dynamical ocean-atmosphere coupled models and composites.

NOAA will announce the U.S. Spring Outlook in March 2008.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, an agency of the U.S. Commerce Department, is celebrating 200 years of science and service to the nation. From the establishment of the Survey of the Coast in 1807 by Thomas Jefferson to the formation of the Weather Bureau and the Commission of Fish and Fisheries in the 1870s, much of America's scientific heritage is rooted in NOAA.

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We are on the up side of a good winter cycle, Its going to be epic for the next 3 or so!! The farmers almenac is wrong every year. Hopefully Snoqualmie does get it together cause those jumps usually sucked ass last 2 seasons! I think I'm making the drive to Stevens, I've heard too many good things and just didn't make it last year to see for myself.
 
"In the Northwest, there are equal chances for above-, near-, or

below-average temperatures. Precipitation should be above average in

much of the region due to La Niña."

Anything is fair game, lets wait and see.
 
wow typical weather man...

I personally know a bit about weather cycles due to my old man who is a forcaster for the state of wash. La nina cycles come in 14 month intervals and that means we are still in a cycle(hence still getting snow in June) If I figure right the cycle should end around mid feb of next year so the season should start off strong and taper off towards the spring. most forcasters within the state are generally saying it will be a season like last years or better. but Im an optimistic so bring on the snow!
 
farmers almanac:

Winter temperatures will be about one-half degree above normal, on

average, with above-normal rainfall in the north and below-normal

rainfall in the south. The coldest periods will be in mid- and late

November, early December, and mid-January. The snowiest periods will be

in mid-November and mid-January.
 
lalala not listening.

but no ive kinda been thinkin the same thing.
a low temp, low precip kinda year.

just snowed at baker tho so who knows
 
It's going to be awesome. Ullr the god of snow came to me in a dream last night and wanted me to announce to newschoolers that this winter is going to be a drunken powfest.
 
When it snows, it snows.

Trying to predict this stuff before hand is ridiculous. Just be thankful for what we get, and hopefully there are lots of deep days.
 
Mabe you are reading the wrong page , cause it's been wrong the past couple years. Cycles like everything else!!!! Early dump, a small break to make us wonder, then it will kickin solid and stay late. If you live in snow country its not so hard to remember how good it was the past 2 seasons and Famers said warm with rain,,,wrong!! Records broke last year and records will break next year. On the up cycle for another couple. We should have a snow pool,,,, call the depth by new years and win some caylors??? Yo Caylor you got some demos? Oh and I found 3 foot of pack in an avy path above my place at about 3000ft. and stewart is still sporting white. It never left this year!!!
 
someone that can predit if there is going to be a storm and is right about everything i would give him a million dollars. Im sorry but these weather forcasts are bullshit only time can tell what the weather is going to be like
 
remeber that last year the season did not start untill the weekend after thanksgiving either. dont loose all hope
 
and we should remember that barely happened. We got shit on first by snow (like 5ft) then a couple feet (in places) of rain. there was barely enough snow to open, then there was just hard ice shit for a while until the snows really came.
 
take this back after looking how its supposed to be this next week or the week after its supposed to suck i think where fucked it needs to get colder then effing 55 degrees!!!!
 
im wanna ski...but im not trippin cause last two years have been super early openings. I see nothing not normal about this year.
 
the median opening day for the summit is December 15th I know because last year I thought it was super late but then I found out it was exactly on the average day. that sentence was poorly formed but I'm sure you got the idea.
 
yeah i read an article in the usa today that said the snow conditions in the northwest are gonna be similar to last year according to researchers. So i'm stoked even though theres not much snow now all we need is a few weeks...
 
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