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thanks to everyone that responded, seriously. I'm going to go for the v-pro's and hope there are still some 180's left. I figured it's best to not go for the 190's with what I'm looking to do.

thanks for the rec's guys but I'm trying to go with something more for the park as well. I spent quite a bit of time in the park last year with my 188 X-screams and could use a change up this time around. I think I'm leaning towards the PE and the V-pro since the word is they are a little...

I want to get some twin tips for just an all mountain ski (and the occasional jib of course). I was wondering out of these four which everyone seems to think would be the best all around, but if you recommend something else from these companies feel free to mention it. I ski about 70%...