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Its not the same as the LBF..it it has a wider tail and is a bit stiffer. Great pow ski since it is soft and has a nice big shovel...mount 2cm back to get better float..has a twin so you can use for backcountry booters etc...nice ski...i have a pair -- Fate Clothing Rep --...

tahoe vista..right behind Sanchos -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

just got a new pair of scratches and the top sheet is different. Has 2 binding mounts to go 2cm back from center line, and the graphic is no longer glossy it is flat..pretty cool i guess -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

working in a shop..is living the dream...being around skis all day long, working on skis, talking about skiing, getting new skis, checking out gear, deals on skiing, passes...what more can I say.. Village Ski Loft -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

working in a shop..is living the dream...being around skis all day long, working on skis, talking about skiing, getting new skis, checking out gear, deals on skiing, passes...what more can I say.. Village Ski Loft -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

I like Fate..good style, good function, good company. Small company..if your shit isn't waterproof anymore, then call up fate and tell them and they will fix the problem..ever try that? -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

Highnorth was sweet...Adult session was awesome, Shane, the coaches, and all the diggers were cool...and I would definately refer anyone who likes to ski and hangout in whistler -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

the center mount is wierd, I had mine mounted a little back and they are awesome. The center mount really makes them too specific for the park...bring them to a shop and have them mounted back a bit, it will make a world of difference! Trust me -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com...

pixies are awesome...so in Frank Black -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

hope colorado actually gets some snow this year, last years season was a joke! -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

couple coaches at Highnorth loved them, but the graphics suck -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

everyone one is entitled to their opinion....some of us out there really like it! -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

i am in whistler now...got here thursday night...hopefully i will make it there tonight tim -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

i am in whistler now...got here thursday night...hopefully i will make it there tonight tim -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

i am in whistler now...got here thursday night...hopefully i will make it there tonight tim -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

sounds like a bunch of opinions...I am sure all the camps are good.. -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

i heard fate makes cool stuff....lol -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

sweet..thanks! -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

scratch FS or BC? I am 5'8 145lbs and am thinking of getting the FS in 180 cm, 168 is too small...I wish it was 175, that is perfect for all mtn -- Fate Clothing Rep -- www.fateclothing.com --> Tim (Coppermtn)

well a soft boot isn't just the actual forward flex in the boot, but the flex of the plastic. The plastic flexabilty is the biggest factor for an overall soft boot. A booster strap replaces the strap over you shin and has some elastic to it so it flexes more..which will help -- Fate Clothing...