i was gonna do a safety...but when i tweaked it i crossed it too...so its like a phil grab, but the the hand you use for mutes, so i called it both. by the way, the video of this is posted too.
no, we just go huge off single, we tip in with top up. ryan i just found out like the other day that that's not phil grab, oh well, we'll call it the vomit grab, phil is left hand left ski and cross in the back, hurray. we're so sexy haha