melvs, i am biased i am part of stept productions, and as far as i am concerned good editing is good editing, and i think the editing in PLE was sick, but the skiing was nothing spectacular, but I can't blame you because those skiers weren't very good (greg ruppel is pretty sick though), I think this is a rather stupid agrument, and you and stept are making a rivalry between amateur ski movie production companies. You guys both are doing good stuff, and just leave it at that.