Lemme explain. my first attempt to do a double flatspin 9 i fell, but not bad. when i asked what i did wrong, i got 2 responses. i was told, you through it too slow, throw faster! andd you over rotated, throw slower!.. sooo i decided, throw slower. i through slower.. got the second flatspin around....... to my side/face and landed in the flat... ow.