ya I know lol, I wasn't even thinking about them that day, but I had wanted to do one for a long time but no jumps around have much lip, so I was to chicken to try a b-flip on them, but this had tons of pop and some friends were around and I had my camera (peer pressure=results lol) and I knew that the worst would probably just be landing ontop then sliding/droping 4 feet into a sk8 rink lol